How are healers fairing right now?

[monk-dps]

This is what I've thought of and came up with for the cards
Arrow: When used, gives the target a Haste effect for 15 seconds
Bole: Grants the user/target 10% Defense for 15 seconds
Ewer: Grants the user 50 MP potency recovery for 10 seconds
Spire: Grants the user 10% Direct hit for 15 seconds
Balance: Increase damage dealt by 5% for 10 seconds(Damage and duration has been nerfed to make other cards viable)
Spear: Increased critical chance by 10% for 15 seconds.
Royal Road is back with it's old effect
This will bring back flavor without making "Balance" Meta. Square enix shouldn't try to cater to those who care only about "Meta" they should be concerned with how they can bring back it's lore and unique game play while making all cards worth using.

As long as players can buff their damage with any card it will ALWAYS be meta. The whole point those streamers and raiders fished for balance was because it buffed their damage. Even if it was only a 1% buff they will still find a way to fish for it because that 1% will add up. It's why people look for those rotations and stuff now. You can't stop the meta. What we have now is really one of the only ways to fight it. Hell thats why ninja and other jobs will always be in groups. You can't stop the meta. D:

[EaMett]

As long as players can buff their damage with any card it will ALWAYS be meta. The whole point those streamers and raiders fished for balance was because it buffed their damage. Even if it was only a 1% buff they will still find a way to fish for it because that 1% will add up. It's why people look for those rotations and stuff now. You can't stop the meta. What we have now is really one of the only ways to fight it. Hell thats why ninja and other jobs will always be in groups. You can't stop the meta. D:

I don't really see how the change is fighting anything. A big part of fun gameplay and game design course 101 is for players to have options. It doesn't matter if you bole once in a while or if you ewer deaths during prog only etc... The simple fact that you even HAVE the option automatically increases the gameplay and fun factor. That one time you diverted from the typical balance fish to do something great or smart or whatever you want to call it totally justifies the feature. Changing the card system in the way they did is hard to justify, no matter what the stats say on balance usage.

[Billythepancake]

As long as players can buff their damage with any card it will ALWAYS be meta. The whole point those streamers and raiders fished for balance was because it buffed their damage. Even if it was only a 1% buff they will still find a way to fish for it because that 1% will add up. It's why people look for those rotations and stuff now. You can't stop the meta. What we have now is really one of the only ways to fight it. Hell thats why ninja and other jobs will always be in groups. You can't stop the meta. D:

While progging TEA I have never wanted AST to have Ewer as much as I do now. it would be such a life saver, meta be damned.

[monk-dps]

While progging TEA I have never wanted AST to have Ewer as much as I do now. it would be such a life saver, meta be damned.

I understand that. And I'm not saying you or the person above you are wrong. I'm just saying while you people here haven't fished for balance... sadly and the cold hard truth to this is the streamers, paid ad peoples making vids and the players SE flies out to events and whatnot WERE fishing for balance. Raid groups in that range mostly only cared about getting that balance for their clears and meter runs. And sadly those people are the people who have voices as their opinion and words reaches accross the net from twitch to youtube to pornhub. So that's most likely why the change was made. Sadly the voices here while SE has proven they can listen to them, sometimes like now we just aren't loud or big enough. Monks have been fighting the good fight for years so I understand... I just also understand we're small compared to who they are actually listening too.

This is also not touching the fact that no matter what the cards were going to be changed anyway because of TP and defense being changed or taken out completely. 4.X series Astro can't come back due to that fact alone. Change was going to happen no matter what.

[Billythepancake]

I understand that. And I'm not saying you or the person above you are wrong. I'm just saying while you people here haven't fished for balance... sadly and the cold hard truth to this is the streamers, paid ad peoples making vids and the players SE flies out to events and whatnot WERE fishing for balance. Raid groups in that range mostly only cared about getting that balance for their clears and meter runs. And sadly those people are the people who have voices as their opinion and words reaches accross the net from twitch to youtube to pornhub. So that's most likely why the change was made. Sadly the voices here while SE has proven they can listen to them, sometimes like now we just aren't loud or big enough. Monks have been fighting the good fight for years so I understand... I just also understand we're small compared to who they are actually listening too.

This is also not touching the fact that no matter what the cards were going to be changed anyway because of TP and defense being changed or taken out completely. 4.X series Astro can't come back due to that fact alone. Change was going to happen no matter what.

I certainly fished for balance back in the day. However, I don't see that as a problem. It was the most useful card at the time, there is no denying that. I think a better solution would have been a way to mitigate the RNG, at a cost. Say, have an ability called "force the fates" that lets you pick whatever card you want but then your next draw/redraw cycle you are guaranteed to not get that card. Maybe that or have unlimited redraws but every redraw in quick succession costs more mp.

Just spitballing here, but I certainly think there was a better solution to AST's problems besides just "make every card balance and add a frustrating seal system"

[CrimsonGunner]

Just spitballing here, but I certainly think there was a better solution to AST's problems besides just "make every card balance and add a frustrating seal system"

of course there could have been better solutions but SE didn't care about them,it picked the most laziest one of them all and preferred to ruin the job instead.
but havens forbid that your characters butt will be flat and anything less then perfect and to that they are will to put the effort into perfection.

[EaMett]

sadly and the cold hard truth to this is the streamers, paid ad peoples making vids and the players SE flies out to events and whatnot WERE fishing for balance.

Also one of the main issues we've been having with this is that none of them have been healer mains. It's definitely not who they should be listening to for healing advice. Here's to me hoping Momo makes it into the lot next time.

[Billythepancake]

Also one of the main issues we've been having with this is that none of them have been healer mains. It's definitely not who they should be listening to for healing advice. Here's to me hoping Momo makes it into the lot next time.

I wouldn't ask for Momo personally, because he's the kind of person that only really cares about optimization and parses. For casual play and what not, that's not really something he does. I'd prefer a healer that does look at both casual and savage tier of play.

[MitsukiKimura]

I wouldn't ask for Momo personally, because he's the kind of person that only really cares about optimization and parses. For casual play and what not, that's not really something he does. I'd prefer a healer that does look at both casual and savage tier of play.

^This right here

[vtndll]

I wouldn't ask for Momo personally, because he's the kind of person that only really cares about optimization and parses. For casual play and what not, that's not really something he does. I'd prefer a healer that does look at both casual and savage tier of play.

Agreed. If memory serves me right momo actually preferred the ast changes for its consistency. (Which he is more than entitled to have that opinion. ) So even if momo was featured more prominently I doubt anything would have changed.