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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    pole dancing is sexual but currerent generation degenerates are trying to turn it into a normal hobby, they are propably the same people who force their children to perform dances on gay clubs.
    What?

    No seriously...

    What?
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by rachcouture View Post
    This is such a ridiculously loaded question. Of course no one wants to advocate for things like slavery, racism, and cannibalism. My point is in your matter-of-fact hypocrisy; you took something that is completely innocent and consensual, claimed it as 'prostitution' (as if legalized sex work is somehow the gravest sin), then labeled it as a bad influence in a game that's filled to the brim with adult content and/or touchy subject matter. It was a reactionary, puritanical, knee-jerk reaction to a harmless request for both an item and animation that already exists in FFXIV and is by no means offensive. The language you used made two things very clear: an attempt at moral high ground, and a resounding 'no' ("stuff like this is never going to happen", etc.). No amount of backtracking is going to change that.



    Also that.
    That's your opinion then. I personally think you're just a bit upset in your response. You're more than welcome to voice out in the next Q&A about this topic if you really want it, all I've given is my reasoning as to why I believe it won't be implemented into the game.
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  3. #63
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    They can fix this just make game with mature rating. I remember way back when dancing use to be the end thing ones did. Loved watch those that did break dancing.
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avidria View Post
    What?

    No seriously...

    What?
    I believe they're referring to the Desmond is Amazing controversy, where the underaged minor performed a mild strip dance at a gay club in NYC (he didn't remove his jeans iirc).



    On topic though, don't really see why it matters. Some people wanna have their Chara poledance. Others don't. It's all preference and neither side is wholly right or wrong until someone takes the Moral High Ground (Not to be confused with the High Ground, signature weapon of Obi-Wan Kenobi, and which is always what you should have).

    Let people poledance if they want. Just make it a sidequest in the Beehive and then people never have to do it?
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    Yes Please I would love to have that ^_^
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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    They can fix this just make game with mature rating. I remember way back when dancing use to be the end thing ones did. Loved watch those that did break dancing.
    There is nothing about the rating that needs to be changed. And it is not something that they can swap on a whim for 1 emote. There's just an absurd amount of people in this world who don't know a thing about dance culture. Like, Olympic gymnastics has pole fitness. It's just horizontal. But let that thing go vertical by gawd call the local priest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    There is nothing about the rating that needs to be changed. And it is not something that they can swap on a whim for 1 emote. There's just an absurd amount of people in this world who don't know a thing about dance culture. Like, Olympic gymnastics has pole fitness. It's just horizontal. But let that thing go vertical by gawd call the local priest.
    It's not culture thing. It's the intent of it. Pole dancing does not have any intent other than that of an adult nature. In that scene, though, it has competitions. Doesn't mean the intent is not adult in nature, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CazzT View Post
    It's not culture thing. It's the intent of it. Pole dancing does not have any intent other than that of an adult nature. In that scene, though, it has competitions. Doesn't mean the intent is not adult in nature, though.
    Literally everything can be adult in nature. Ballet has pedophilia roots but nope, no one mentions that when watching the Nutcracker. This game is adult in nature. Why is no one bringing up the fact female midlander dance is the self same that catgirls world wide dance in skimpy clothes? Those girls are dancing to excite, and allure. Oh? Not a problem all of a sudden? Given what's been argued in this thread. Did everyone forget the [censored] piercings? Cause ya make their lewd jewelry for GSM levequests.

    For His Radiance's sake, it's like being told 1+1=2 and arguing that it can equal 5 and 7. It is harmless. And if seeing players be able to do the Eulmore pole dances in their own home bothers people that much, then they should step away from XIV. The entirety of DRG may as well push the rating up. They have poles (see eastern staff), and the female weapon stance may as well be one move away from shaking those hips. Pole dance does not have to be adult or sultry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

  9. 12-09-2019 05:50 AM
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    Time to avoid this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MitsukiKimura View Post
    That's your opinion then. I personally think you're just a bit upset in your response. You're more than welcome to voice out in the next Q&A about this topic if you really want it, all I've given is my reasoning as to why I believe it won't be implemented into the game.
    You have a strange idea of what being upset is, then.

    Quote Originally Posted by CazzT View Post
    It's not culture thing. It's the intent of it. Pole dancing does not have any intent other than that of an adult nature. In that scene, though, it has competitions. Doesn't mean the intent is not adult in nature, though.
    So where is the 'adult' intent when someone signs up for a fitness pole dancing? There's well over a dozen options near me in my part of North Texas; you know, the state that's often seen as being incredibly conservative (it unfortunately is, but it also isn't; it's a lot more complicated than that, but that's another discussion altogether)

    Can pole dancing be erotic? Sure. Is it always? Not even remotely. Even if it was, so what? Sensuality is natural. It's a part of life. It's harmless. No amount of yelling from a negatively biased bubble is going to change that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    pole dancing is sexual
    Quote Originally Posted by CazzT View Post
    Pole dancing does not have any intent other than that of an adult nature.
    I can't tell if this is ignorance or individuals projecting their own depravity onto others.
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