[Suggestion] Remove the role restrictions on the YoRHa gear?

[Alleo]

I have every job on lvl 80 and yet I too want the role restrictions to be removed. I dont care if I could glamour it to the other job if I want that glamour for another. There are also a lot of other restricted gear that I really love to use on other jobs too especially the stuff that you can get for gatherers and crafters.

Sometimes (especially with crafters where I love the whole set) I will glamour it all but a lot of times I like to match up different kind of glamours into one new set which is then mostly restricted to using lvl 1 glamour gear..

And I am too confused why removing the restrictions would give us less option? Would you also say that having a school wearing a school uniform gives better options than every person being able to choose their own clothes? Sure you will have those that will wear what is expensive or modern but you will also have enough people that will just wear what they will find great which can be quite different to the rest. So really can someone truly explain why this would give us less options?

[Gemina]

And I am too confused why removing the restrictions would give us less option? Would you also say that having a school wearing a school uniform gives better options than every person being able to choose their own clothes? Sure you will have those that will wear what is expensive or modern but you will also have enough people that will just wear what they will find great which can be quite different to the rest. So really can someone truly explain why this would give us less options?

As far as I can tell, no one is saying that removing restrictions reduces your options. This is mathematically impossible. Those who are for the restrictions being in place are saying that more options =/= more diversity. If that is the angle of your argument, then it is not a good one. They are also repeating over and over again that removing restrictions would take a ton of dev time, and would much rather have more options come by that time going towards creating new sets of gear.

The YoHRa gear you're all in love with wouldn't even be possible if the devs are fiddling around with restriction removal on gear that is already in the game. IOW: Less time spent on milking old content equals More time spent on the new. If you truly want more options and more diversity, then pushing for restriction removal at this point in the game doesn't even make much sense.

[Raikai]

As far as I can tell, no one is saying that removing restrictions reduces your options. This is mathematically impossible. Those who are for the restrictions being in place are saying that more options =/= more diversity. If that is the angle of your argument, then it is not a good one. They are also repeating over and over again that removing restrictions would take a ton of dev time, and would much rather have more options come by that time going towards creating new sets of gear.

The YoHRa gear you're all in love with wouldn't even be possible if the devs are fiddling around with restriction removal on gear that is already in the game. IOW: Less time spent on milking old content equals More time spent on the new. If you truly want more options and more diversity, then pushing for restriction removal at this point in the game doesn't even make much sense.

YohRa gear wasn't already there, it needed time to be designed and modeled after every race and gender.

Restriction removal and even Replica creating already count on existing models... I'm not sure if I'm following your logic on time allocation.

[Gemina]

YohRa gear wasn't already there, it needed time to be designed and modeled after every race and gender.

Restriction removal and even Replica creating already count on existing models... I'm not sure if I'm following your logic on time allocation.

You answered your own question. The YoHRa gear indeed was not already there. The time needed to design, implement, and test is exactly my point, and that the gear still wouldn't be here if devs were wasting their time removing restrictions on gear that already is in the game. What would you rather have: More gear like YoHRa brought into the game, or being able to cross-class glamour gear that already exists? 'Both' is not a valid answer.

Restriction removal on gear isn't even a thing that I am aware of. I can't recall one piece of gear the devs have removed restrictions on other than the MGS bunny attire, which I don't really count in this case because we are more honed in on the removal of role restricted gear. And after it's removal, if you read the description of it, you can clearly tell their annoyance with that removal.

Replica creating is the compromise SE is willing to make, but even after releasing multiple sets, players are still up in arms about restriction removal. And it's this give an inch, take a mile mentality that makes me wish SE would just stop caving in, because they can't win with these people. I don't even like that they are creating replica sets, but understand that this far easier for them to do than it is removing restrictions. It's still taking time away from where I feel it belongs. There are still many issues with this game that pertain to gameplay, and while we do need a good amount of QoL adjustments made as well, the priority should be clear to everyone who cares about the longevity of this game.

[Crushnight]

Restriction removal on gear isn't even a thing that I am aware of. I can't recall one piece of gear the devs have removed restrictions on other than the MGS bunny attire, which I don't really count in this case because we are more honed in on the removal of role restricted gear. And after it's removal, if you read the description of it, you can clearly tell their annoyance with that removal.

To be fair the male bunny suit only got so much support because the devs were being very biased towards female characters for too long,
With the gold saucer there were 4 female exclusive glamours and 2 male exclusives following this was the thavnarian sets which again had a female exclusive glamour but no male exclusive, this was blatantly unfair towards those players who play male characters so removing these restrictions got more support than had SE actually released the same amount of exclusives for each gender, SE basically shot themselves in the foot by not offering up an equal amount of exclusives, it is the same now with the Alma outfit, which has come after the Krile outfit, and we know a ShB Y'shtola outfit will eventually be coming, what do males have to look forward to Crystal Exarch? we have no idea if they are working on it at all, and while mog station team is different to the main dev team it is still an inequality that can't be rectified easily due to the main dev team giving most male non antagonists slightly altered gear already in game.

This then begs the question who is getting the inequality stick more, the males who don't get anything exclusive or the females who do but they have to pay extra for it?

[PyurBlue]

You answered your own question. The YoHRa gear indeed was not already there. The time needed to design, implement, and test is exactly my point, and that the gear still wouldn't be here if devs were wasting their time removing restrictions on gear that already is in the game. What would you rather have: More gear like YoHRa brought into the game, or being able to cross-class glamour gear that already exists? 'Both' is not a valid answer.

On that note though it would probably save time later down the line if they made new gear less restricted in the first place. People would get their options and there wouldn't be a need to revisit old gear later.

It was suggested in this thread that a NPC be added to create glam copies of existing gear, which sounds like a nice idea to me. Add this now and it solves the issue for future gear.

Restriction removal on gear isn't even a thing that I am aware of. I can't recall one piece of gear the devs have removed restrictions on other than the MGS bunny attire, which I don't really count in this case because we are more honed in on the removal of role restricted gear. And after it's removal, if you read the description of it, you can clearly tell their annoyance with that removal.

Maybe what is desired could be stated more clearly, but it's easy for a message to be muddled when many people are communicating at once. Replicas are the same as removing the restriction to me. I'd expect many people to feel the same.

Replica creating is the compromise SE is willing to make, but even after releasing multiple sets, players are still up in arms about restriction removal. And it's this give an inch, take a mile mentality that makes me wish SE would just stop caving in, because they can't win with these people.

People come and go all the time. Some are more aware of what's going on than others. I don't think there is an inch-mile mentality so much as there is a general dislike for the restrictions, and people will voice that. The devs can do what they want, but if they are willing to receive feedback, I'll tell them what I think.