[Suggestion] Remove the role restrictions on the YoRHa gear?

[ErryK]

I find it humorous that this raid with it's fashionable glam has sparked so much whining. From 2b Coffers to job restrictions.
"It doesn't even LOOK like tank gear!" this is nothing new, there's tons of tank gear that doesn't look armored. Hell, the new furry DNG gear all basically looks like mid leather gear with very lil difference. But this raid gets all the attention lol

Might just be because the Nier gear actually looks good.

[SturmChurro]

Well some of us actually suck at certain job/role.
For instance, I'm probably the worst tank player in the history of MMO.
Can keep the agro but never understood how to use my CD properly no matter how many times I tried or how many times people has tried to explain it to me. And god knows I tried so....basically, to be abble to use that glam, I would have to ruin my team mates experience by being carried on on one of the most important role for more than 30 lvls out of selfishness....
Does not seems nice imho oO

I'm in a similar situation.. I'm awful at red mage, but It's my main dps. Actually, I don't even like playing it that much.. I'm weeks behind in gear for every other class and people want 465 gear score etc. for farms, so I kinda gotta deal with it.. Really sucks, to be honest. I keep buying augmented gear for it too, just so I can have the boosted gear score, while at the same time pushing classes I think I'd actually want to play further and further behind. Rather a dps class I'd want to play. I only play white mage alternatively.

and SAME with tanks. I have literally NEVER tanked anything but a dungeon. I get anxiety if I tank actual content. I don't know any of the mechanics or what I need to do, I know it's not hard, but I still get anxiety. I don't even really tank extremes either, even though they give tank mount progress faster.. However, it is learn by doing. Though, I really don't know if it's worth playing a class you don't like just for the glamour, or use your weekly loot on it. You will get into a situation like I am in on my red mage. It's not worth it. Yes, I have made sets for my other classes, but I never see them, because I never play them. The most I ever see out of the looks I make is when I am leveling them.

Might just be because the Nier gear actually looks good.

Unfortunately, yeah. A lot of the gear SE makes looks like poo, or only singular pieces of them look good.. with something else.

[Novae]

Which same thing? Which one of the sets, given all of them would be available?

At least be honest and admit it's just a case "I don't care about it, so no one should have it" instead of making nonsense BS reasons. How in hell does unlocking the different sets for all roles = homogeneity?

Hello, I'm a bit late there but I was talking about unlocking everything, not just Nier's set. I should have specified this first.
Now, removing sets from roles/jobs is imho removing said roles a part of their identity. If you can wear everything you want without putting any effort into it, without having to experience a new job, their gameplay and story, you're removing a -good- part of the gaming experience. This is what I'm calling homogeneity. Whatever you do, leveling 1 job or all jobs, you'll get the same result ( glamour wise). I find it unfair and pretty dull.

Now, I'm not agains't removing glamour restriction when you reach max level. I could use some DoH pieces on my healers. That would be an amazing incentive to level all jobs ( better than the Amaro probably).

[Tsalmaveth]

I think people are missing the point: The stats and earning the gear is still a thing. You need the gear for the roles but being able to glam the pieces onto any class you are at level for should be allowed after you have earned it. Why NOT? I don't get why people would have their proverbial knickers in a twist about it. People still have to 'do the work' and still need the 'stats' for their role... you still have the 'iconic look' in the Artifact Sets (which should NOT be unlocked) but the rest of the gear? Let people BE FREE.

My Healers already have a 'heavy plate set' created using gear I collected from raids/dungeons: Chest - Gordian Gown of Healing / Gloves - Bonewicca Soother's Gauntlets / Boots - Bonewicca Soother's Sabatons. - The idea of 'robes for healers uwu' is out the window, just look at the latest Deepshadow set, all that chainmail and heavy armour strapped to it. Hmmm. Stop trying to impose your ideas/ideals of what healers 'should' be on me/us. If that's how YOU want to play one, go for it. But others, including the developers, have other ideas.

Not to mention they've already released a full set of the Skypirate that is purely glamour, indicating they're fully aware our desire for freedom across the classes. Opening up cross-glam support for pieces earned, while people still need to wear the gear appropriate to their classes under it, is not that big of a deal. People will still mix and match and create unique and inspired glams using various pieces from all over the place. Not EVERYONE is 'wear everything from just one set!' one-note-wonders... a lot of people create sets using pieces they deliberately have to go and find using various sources. I completely support this request. Again. Because it's not the first time it's been made.

[Saefinn]

I think people are missing the point: The stats and earning the gear is still a thing. You need the gear for the roles but being able to glam the pieces onto any class you are at level for should be allowed after you have earned it. Why NOT? I don't get why people would have their proverbial knickers in a twist about it. People still have to 'do the work' and still need the 'stats' for their role... you still have the 'iconic look' in the Artifact Sets (which should NOT be unlocked) but the rest of the gear? Let people BE FREE.

My Healers already have a 'heavy plate set' created using gear I collected from raids/dungeons: Chest - Gordian Gown of Healing / Gloves - Bonewicca Soother's Gauntlets / Boots - Bonewicca Soother's Sabatons. - The idea of 'robes for healers uwu' is out the window, just look at the latest Deepshadow set, all that chainmail and heavy armour strapped to it. Hmmm. Stop trying to impose your ideas/ideals of what healers 'should' be on me/us. If that's how YOU want to play one, go for it. But others, including the developers, have other ideas.

Not to mention they've already released a full set of the Skypirate that is purely glamour, indicating they're fully aware our desire for freedom across the classes. Opening up cross-glam support for pieces earned, while people still need to wear the gear appropriate to their classes under it, is not that big of a deal. People will still mix and match and create unique and inspired glams using various pieces from all over the place. Not EVERYONE is 'wear everything from just one set!' one-note-wonders... a lot of people create sets using pieces they deliberately have to go and find using various sources. I completely support this request. Again. Because it's not the first time it's been made.

Case in point. With FFXI’s equivalent system I can ‘glamour’ anything to any job. What problems does it cause? Absolutely none. Does it mean my BLU can wear full heavy armour? damn straight it can. Does it matter? No. It doesn’t ruin my immersion that my character can wear things. It makes sense to lock items, particularly with things like stats to certain jobs or roles, the inability to wear a piece of gear surely would be the immersion breaker. If I changed jobs IRL from a carpenter to a chef I can still wear my carpentry apron.

It’s likely also why some RPG’s instead of restricting what you can wear you gain benefits through proficiencies instead, save restricting what they can physically wear. From a mechanical standpoint it wouldn’t make sense here. But for a Mage to be able to glamour a pirate hat is not game or immersion breaking and I cannot think of a viable reason to restrict this beyond any limitations in the system. AF I can maybe understand to the degree of retaining job fantasy.

[TwiibieTwuu]

The whole "class identity" argument is silly. I didn't realise you had to be a hard to wear a pair of shoes.

We already have artifact/relic armour unique to their classes. There's their identity.

I can understand some restrictions like heavy plate not being wearable on a dancer I guess? But even then the new PvP sets the bard has a recolour of the heavy tank set.

Should release (level 1) glamour versions after the raid/expansion has concluded.

[Aragogo]

In some cases, I agree with each job keeping their unique style - mostly where the discrepancy between styles is sizeable like robes and cloaks vs suits of armour. However, when it comes to the YoRHa gear and some of the newer style sets, they mostly retain a singular style with minor changes throughout to fit each class. Why shouldn't they then be open to anyone?

The Nier gear is simply the easiest example given that it's the most recent plus it really does kinda look the best.

[Tsalmaveth]

The whole "class identity" argument is silly. I didn't realise you had to be a hard to wear a pair of shoes.

We already have artifact/relic armour unique to their classes. There's their identity.

I can understand some restrictions like heavy plate not being wearable on a dancer I guess? But even then the new PvP sets the bard has a recolour of the heavy tank set.

Should release (level 1) glamour versions after the raid/expansion has concluded.

I created my heavy-plate healer glam because I was thinking of a typical Cleric (which is why my WHM weapon is the non-crafted Cane of the Heavens from Thordan EX, looks as mace-ish as I can get...) but seeing someone say 'no heavy plate for a dancer' now makes me want to see just how heavy a set I can create for one with the idea of a Turkish Blade Dancer. >:| Thank you for the inspiration.

[TwiibieTwuu]

but seeing someone say 'no heavy plate for a dancer' now makes me want to see just how heavy a set I can create for one with the idea of a Turkish Blade Dancer. >:| Thank you for the inspiration.

I never said that! I just said I could understand there being a restriction!

Also looked them up and they seem to be wearing light garments.

But follow your dreams! https://youtu.be/O6EEyEzdw1g

Might I suggest mixing the legacy warrior chest piece with the Crystarium guard gloves!

[He-Saiyan]

In FFXI, there were no class or roles restrictions. If you have the job leveled, you can use that gear style on any other class. One of the few tings FFXI did right mind you. FFXI was waaaaay better than FFXIV in the style department, but that is about it...