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  1. #25151
    Player
    CazzT's Avatar
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    Kyssa Shay
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    Siren
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    Reaper Lv 93
    Quote Originally Posted by Ursa_Vonfiebryd View Post
    The fact that it was said during a boss fight (where you can't exactly respond without dropping what you're doing), and the OP wasn't even doing what they were accused of?
    That doesn't make the question rude, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ursa_Vonfiebryd View Post
    Also, unless the party was doing very poor damage to the extent that the healer resources were getting strained (which considering how squishy SB dungeons are now is unlikely but admittedly not entirely outside the realm of possibility) then why even comment? Especially if you don't intend to follow through with actual advice, which I assume they didn't.
    So unless someone dies, people aren't allowed to ask questions? And they didn't follow with advice because they got no response.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ursa_Vonfiebryd View Post
    It was a snide observation and not even a correct one, as the OP stated they were not in fact, spamming F3.
    Seems to me you're taking it completely the wrong way. There was nothing snide, nor rude, about the question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ursa_Vonfiebryd View Post
    Unless that healer was struggling, they were out of line.
    So, according to you, unless the fight is going badly, no one is allowed to help anyone. That's not a question, that's pointing out the logic you're using. Only thing out of line here is painting an innocent question as some monumental personal attack against the BLM.

    Quote Originally Posted by WrenElessedil View Post
    To add to that, no one starts off a question that way if they're not trying to be snarky. If they had just asked their question without the condescending first part, it would be no problem.
    What's condescending about it? I think people are reading way too much into text.
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  2. #25152
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    Mesarthim's Avatar
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
    World
    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Well that was some lovely spam in my normal raid roulette. We had a new monk in A9N (I was on monk too). On Faust Z I saw the following:

    "ATAH!"
    "Eyah tah tah tah tah!"

    Repeat a few dozen times. He seriously has a chat macro tied to his attacks. By the end of the run I had a few dozen lines of it in my chatlog. It was a decent run aside from the tank cleaving us.
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  3. #25153
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    Berteaux_Braumegain's Avatar
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    Berteaux Braumegain
    World
    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    The thing about Copied Factory is pretty much everything is telegraphed, slowly at that too, very simple. Once you know what to look out for, the only thing you actually have to worry about are other players. Especially Alliance B, someone always gets killed by someone else or eachother on Hobbes.
    The worst attack in Copied Factory is the box where the sides instantly kill you if they fall on you. I never had a problem dodging that until that hit me once. Now I always find myself getting nicked by that.
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  4. #25154
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
    World
    Marilith
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Berteaux_Braumegain View Post
    The worst attack in Copied Factory is the box where the sides instantly kill you if they fall on you. I never had a problem dodging that until that hit me once. Now I always find myself getting nicked by that.
    You are probably just overthinking it. That will rotate last minute, you should have enough time to reposition. There's probably an actual way of knowing where it will drop, but that's just what I do. No real issues here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kleeya View Post
    I am seriously tempted to ditch RDM for a selfish dps job, or to stop doing the only instanced content i am still doing once per week, copied factory. People are dying left and right, you launch tons of verraise including on the other teams, save the run several times, have even to ressort to mana potions because lucid dreaming is not enough, and the only time you are dying near the end of the last boss people keep dpsing, dpsing, dpsing, dpsing, instead of launching one rez at you because their fflogs must be more important, and because you sure didn't help them enough. No coms either, as usual when you were more of a rezslave than a redmage. Such a thankless job.

    At least i did finally got this 2B coffer.
    Yeah.. tell me about it. I have saved numerous runs as RDM, or WHM. Nobody cares. Most of the time it is a waste of MP, especially if the person you raise just dies immediately after. Actually a huge waste of MP. I won't raise if my MP is at a certain point, unless it's life or death (like a healer if both are down).

    I have literally earned more commendations in the past couple nights of PoTD spamming as ninja than I did in ALL of my Copied Factory runs as WHM, or RDM where I literally did save runs multiple times.I don't think I have ever actually earned a commendation as RDM in copied factory thinking about it. I OCCASIONALLY will get 1 commendation as WHM, I guess if someone was nice.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 11-26-2019 at 02:13 PM.
    WHM | RDM | DNC

  5. #25155
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    Rasikko's Avatar
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    Rasikko Rakitto
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    Lamia
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    Dark Knight Lv 64
    When it rests on the floor and starts to open, then it turns. Don't go by where the corners are during its descent.
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  6. #25156
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    Frizze's Avatar
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Harmonea View Post
    Here are some basic tips for you

    At your level for single targets (like bosses), your ice phases will be Blizz 3, enochian (if not up), Blizz 4 to get umbral hearts, and your highest single target thunder. Your fire phases will be Fire 3, Fire 4 x3, Fire 1 to keep your astral fire buff (fire 4 does not refresh it), and another Fire 4 x3. You'll also want to fit any instant procs in there (thunder, instant fire 3) as long as you aren't in danger of your fire/ice buff dropping. There's more stuff to add to this in your 70s, but that's where more detailed guides can help. Essentially, your goals are to keep Enochian up and cast as much Fire 4 as possible.

    Whenever you have 3 or more targets, you want to do an AoE rotation instead. Ice phases with be Freeze followed by an AoE thunder, then you can go into fire phase with fire 3 followed by fire 2 spam then fire 2 x 2, and a flare to finish - then transpose into ice to continue. At 68 you get a special trait that simplifies this even more; your fire phase is just Fire 3, Flare x2, the end. Again, keep using those thunder procs. And finally, at 72 youll get another trait that lets you cast an ice spell for 0 mana when you have full fire stacks. Use this to more smoothly switch back to ice(freeze spell) after flare drains you.

    These basics should get you in reasonably average shape at your level. It sounds like a lot, but it's only like~ 9 spells for your core gameplay til 70+ starts adding things like Foul and Despair.
    Fixed that for you. You dont multi-flare(without CDs) before 68, but you should start adding it to your AoE rotation from level 50. Its the strongest spell you have until you hit 70+, so you might as well get a feel for it early on. And to Saiix if youre still reading, if youre on a really big important aoe pull and you wanna spike it a little you have 2 cooldowns available to add additional flares. First, manafont gives you back 30% of your mp(usable every 3 mins) which lets you shoot off an extra flare. And secondly, any ether or other potion that gives you at least 800 mana will allow you to launch an extra flare too. Good luck apprentice burner of worlds.
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  7. #25157
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    Tracewood's Avatar
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    Character
    Eugene Tracewood
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 92
    Had a fantastic Hades EX clear party in Party Finder on Sunday afternoon. First group the second tank was struggling very hard on grabbing hate, eventually we ran out of time and people left. Second group had the same leader who I think changed to healer, but new people and we were consistent in getting to the last phase. Eventually we beat him before his enrage got off, even with some deaths we pulled it off.

    A few things I've learned about Phase 2... if you die, be careful when you rez, don't press anything because things constantly go off. I had three deaths because of poor timing.

    Last phase is easier as long as you dodge or know where to stand and just wail on the boss.

    If your DPS is low, invest in some potions. I've seen a few 80-90K Midares go off (this is also due to Trick and some AST buffs as far as I knoW)

    Great group of people!
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  8. #25158
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    WrenElessedil's Avatar
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    Wren Elessedil
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    Leviathan
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by CazzT View Post
    What's condescending about it? I think people are reading way too much into text.
    Oh, please. That healer knew exactly what they were asking. If they wanted to help, they would have offered tips, not asked the equivalent of "why aren't you playing the right way" in a snarky manner. They knew how BLM is supposed to be played, and anyone with half a brain could see that if the BLM is playing wrong then they don't know how it's supposed to be played, so the only reason to ask them why they're playing that way is to be condescending. Not to mention, as I already said, no one starts a question with "Umm" and doesn't intend it to be condescending.
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  9. #25159
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    KalinOrthos's Avatar
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    Kalin Orthos
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    Mateus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    I get it. Clemency is not meant to be used liberally. It's utility, not damage. You shouldn't be using it in lieu of other abilities.

    But when you do end up having to use it? Oh man. Oh man it feels so good.

    Got out of a Susan normal fight. The healers were relatively slow to bring people back up to a good level, and sure enough, during the sword phase and the resultant big raidwide damage, both helaers and two of the DPS dropped like rocks. Thankfully we had a SMN alive so we could get people up, so I pulled out the Cover/Hallowed Ground and started using Clemency + FB>RB to stabilize the raid while we got back off the ground. It felt so damn good to do so.
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  10. #25160
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    Rasikko's Avatar
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    Rasikko Rakitto
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 64
    Quote Originally Posted by WrenElessedil View Post
    Not to mention, as I already said, no one starts a question with "Umm" and doesn't intend it to be condescending.
    You must be very difficult to talk to in the game then, if you assume such things so easily.
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