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    Light Khah
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    In-game, in the English version at least, it is often outright stated in your journal entries that you had help.
    And in the german version its often not that case and seeing how the lore book states the solo parts too and a lot if makes no sense if people are with us I do head canon that we are alone most of the time. Even in shadowbringers we have the fights against Innocenz and Titania where no trusts were helping us and its not really possible to have adventure friends. I wonder if its still part of the english version to talk about a group there.

    Anyway we always just fight Ranjit in solo instances and still somehow were able to beat him with barely any training and we also got worse towards the end thanks to all the light. I just dont find such enemies interesting, at least not when they are done in that way. Have them be sneaky and take us down through other unfair means and it makes at least a bit more sense that we suddenly are able to beat him easily.
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    Tal Young
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    And in the german version its often not that case and seeing how the lore book states the solo parts too and a lot if makes no sense if people are with us I do head canon that we are alone most of the time. Even in shadowbringers we have the fights against Innocenz and Titania where no trusts were helping us and its not really possible to have adventure friends. I wonder if its still part of the english version to talk about a group there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravana
    As Ysayle sinks to her knees, defeated, the triumphant god's eyes alight on you. Take to the field and match your prowess against the self-proclaimed Conqueror of the World!
    Quote Originally Posted by Bismark
    You inform Wedge that you are ready to hunt the white whale. Board the Enterprise with your companions and rid the Sea of Clouds of Bismarck's ravenous presence.
    Quote Originally Posted by Thordan
    Judgment passed, the self-proclaimed god king duly turns to leave, but not before issuing you a challenge. Answer it, and put an end to his madness once and for all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Susano
    How fortunate that you had the wisdom and foresight to invite several of your fellow adventurers on this journey to the Far East, and how kind they were to agree to help you torment the Red Kojin, for no single warrior, no matter how blessed or powerful, could ever hope to slay a primal on her own, despite what some wandering minstrels would have you believe.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lakshmi
    Either way, her failure has left you with no recourse but to meet the primal in single combat─ably abetted by the goodly adventurers who you had the wisdom and foresight to summon to Djanan Qhat in anticipation of this outcome.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shinryu
    Nor is he mistaken. For if you and your comrades─those stalwart yet humble adventurers who have stood by you from first to last─do not stop Zenos yae Galvus...no one will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Titania
    At the arrival of the bearer of all four relics, the seal protecting the castle is broken. All that remains is to venture inside and confront the light-corrupted king of the faeries, Titania.
    Quote Originally Posted by Innocence
    As you approach Vauthry's private sanctuary, he unleashes a horde of sin eaters upon you. While your comrades keep the creatures at bay, you must press on to fulfill your mission's objective: striking down the final Lightwarden.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hades
    But then Ardbert is there at your side, and with his hand at your back, you find the strength to take another step. Emet-Selch's disbelief is compounded as the Exarch appears and intones a spell to bring you further reinforcements. Now enraged beyond measure, the Ascian casts aside his mortal form, and reveals to you his true name─Hades.
    For Bismark, Susano, Lakshmi, Shinryu and Hades it's stated that you have people with you.

    Thordan is ambiguous but leaning towards having help IMHO. Leaving, giving you time to prep and all that.

    Ravana and Titania are also ambiguous but leaning more towards being solo. Though should be noted there is a friendly NPC in Ravana's cave who if you speak to him tells you that you can sneak out and go get some help.

    Innocence reads pretty explicitly as a solo venture to me.

    It leads me to believe that the devs have been thinking of the WoL as the leader of a group for a while, and decided to really make a point of mentioning it in SB because they wanted to be explicit about the fact that you're not a total solo powerhouse.

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    Interestingly enough, IIRC SB outright mentions adventurer friends, comrades, etc. for every trial it has, except for Tsukuyomi, which is one of the rare instances of them not just hinting, but outright stating that you faced her alone.
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    Last edited by Jandor; 11-20-2019 at 09:44 AM.