Quote Originally Posted by tokinokanatae View Post
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I'd love to know where it ends, the goalposts have moved again.

Emet-Selch didn't just give Vauthry "the power to attack people with Sin Eaters". He corrupted that unborn baby with the full power of a Lightwarden.

I have no idea what Lightwarden mobility has to do with anything, but Titania wasn't sealed away be their choice. I'm sure they would have loved to play outside.

Titania was "ruling" Il Mheg in a similar vicious fashion, apparently, before they were sealed. It's not a stretch to say Vauthry could do the same, within the context of the role the Ascians gave him to play.

TL;DR: You seem to be trying to hold Vauthry to a higher standard than Emet-Selch, even though Emet-Selch made him what he was without giving him a choice.

And finally, we've reached the (ironic) goalpost of "Emet-Selch was Tempered by Zodiark". No one is saying you can't enjoy a villain even if they have done monstrous unforgivable things, by the way. I like a lot of villains who have. Games need villains. I enjoyed this upgrade from Lahabrea in Shadowbringers, Ascians have needed it since ARR. But I'm still not going to try to say the horrid things they do could be anything but horrid, and I'm not going to call them a "hero".

We've reached an impasse here. In fact, we probably reached it a while ago, and some of the posts lately are barely about the character at all, but rather the fact I won't call what the Ascians have done a "matter of perspective". You'll find a lot of theorycrafting in the Lore forum on Emet-Selch's Tempering (and Tempering in general), though. ‾\_(ツ)_/‾ Have fun!