Revelations from SHADOWBRINGERS

[RyuDragnier]

But like, is vanishing like a puff of smoke one of his powers? Can Gaius or Estinien do that? In all future engagement, can Zenos just instantly teleport away before he can ever be in any danger?

From the fact that he now has the Ascian eyes, assume he has all Ascian powers. Which unfortunately makes him more of a nuisance than before. Hopefully he'll be more...interesting, in the future.

[Iscah]

From the fact that he now has the Ascian eyes, assume he has all Ascian powers. Which unfortunately makes him more of a nuisance than before. Hopefully he'll be more...interesting, in the future.

Those are Resonant eyes, unless you're referring to something else. We saw him using it right back in Stormblood before he took over Shinryu, and Fordola had it too.

[Edax]

Those are Resonant eyes, unless you're referring to something else. We saw him using it right back in Stormblood before he took over Shinryu, and Fordola had it too.

Yeah, does the Artificial Echo give you the ability to teleport out of combat? Is that a thing now?

[DaBigDorf]

If we've learned anything from Naruto it's that having funky eyes gives you new powers as the plot demands.

What started out as "an eye that creates a hypnotic technique allowing to copy moves" evolved into "creates unquenchable flames, impenetrable force field giant suits of armor, allows one to phase into another dimension, and can rewind time"

[LineageRazor]

Yeah, does the Artificial Echo give you the ability to teleport out of combat? Is that a thing now?

I think one of the characters notes that Zenos is basically an Ascian, now. He's achieved command of the Echo (Resonance, in his case) that no previous mortal has (at least, not without Ascian assistance) - but that Elidibus himself once said (to Minfillia) we'd be capable of if only we understood its true potential.

At least, that's the angle I think the writers are gunning for. Zenos is now essentially a self-ascended Ascian, and can do anything an Ascian can do, including bamf his mortal shell around as he pleases.

[Edax]

I think one of the characters notes that Zenos is basically an Ascian, now. He's achieved command of the Echo (Resonance, in his case) that no previous mortal has (at least, not without Ascian assistance) - but that Elidibus himself once said (to Minfillia) we'd be capable of if only we understood its true potential.

At least, that's the angle I think the writers are gunning for. Zenos is now essentially a self-ascended Ascian, and can do anything an Ascian can do, including bamf his mortal shell around as he pleases.

But even Ascians can't disengage immediately out of combat, hence why Lahabrea and Igeyorhm were killed in Heavensward and Nabriales in AAR. I mean, why not poof away immediately the moment they begin losing the combat? Even Emet was overwhelmed at one point and chose to fight on instead of disengage, which begs the question why did he stand and fight when he didn't physically need to stick around there at all?

[Crushnight]

But even Ascians can't disengage immediately out of combat, hence why Lahabrea and Igeyorhm were killed in Heavensward and Nabriales in AAR. I mean, why not poof away immediately the moment they begin losing the combat? Even Emet was overwhelmed at one point and chose to fight on instead of disengage, which begs the question why did he stand and fight when he didn't physically need to stick around there at all?

Pride and arrogance, something of a staple of the Ascians, Zenos just doesn't care about anything but us, if he finds the battle boring he either kills or leaves.

[QT_Melon]

But even Ascians can't disengage immediately out of combat, hence why Lahabrea and Igeyorhm were killed in Heavensward and Nabriales in AAR. I mean, why not poof away immediately the moment they begin losing the combat? Even Emet was overwhelmed at one point and chose to fight on instead of disengage, which begs the question why did he stand and fight when he didn't physically need to stick around there at all?

Ascians are a long living remnant of their old world, there's a certain point where flight isn't gonna work and they will eventually put their foot down in an all or nothing since to them, it's also about the survival of their species (as a whole - since they see the current state as broken pieces) and at this point and mentioned by Lahabrea that they feel that the new existence is warping beyond recognition.

[Edax]

Ascians are a long living remnant of their old world, there's a certain point where flight isn't gonna work and they will eventually put their foot down in an all or nothing since to them, it's also about the survival of their species (as a whole - since they see the current state as broken pieces) and at this point and mentioned by Lahabrea that they feel that the new existence is warping beyond recognition.

At no instance I can think of that any of the confrontations with the Ascians required them risking their entire species and their plan for a fight to the death. If Emet-Selch had bugged out of the First without ever confronting the Warrior of Darkness towards the end, his plan would have succeeded and a new Sin Eater would be finishing off the First. Emet putting his foot down jeopardized the survival of his species.

[Linadae]

Considering the 'soul' is aether, I'm on the side of Black Rose being able to kill body hoppers. Since what they're doing is moving their aether to another body. If the aether coagulates then they can't move it, meaning their soul is stuck in a dead body.