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  1. #391
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirhd View Post
    A previous post I made in this thread. I actually have been doing turn ins, and given your responses in this thread, I'm seriously doubtful you have.
    Sounds more of a bad planning on your part. I never ran into the issue you mentioned in your post, simply because I have everything prepared an hour in advance. I would spend time gathering all the mats I needed, then spend the hr before the FATE starts in crafting. I would even have a lot left over for when I jump to another server that is about to start in an hour after mine ends. Which is why I easily leveled my ALC, got tons of scrips and EXP. Is this an exploitation of the system now?
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  2. #392
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    Whalaqee's Avatar
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    Diabolos
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    Personally speaking? I would prefer something more akin to the Doman Enclave than the Ishgardian Restoration if it were to happen again. Doman Enclave let the indivdual go at their own pace to see the world rebuilt, Ishgardian Restoration creates a feeling of missing out on the effort.

    An alternative to the above is also a spin on the Custom Delivery system. Where people can contribute (lets say...12) turn-ins but it works on a day-to-day basis instead of the standard week-to-week for Custom Delivery. Which would still work for people wanting to make lots of collectibles for turn ins as they can have a stockpile (pun intended) of collectibles to hand out each day. And that it would give people some breathing room for farming mats each day.
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  3. #393
    Player Sesera's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisshu View Post
    Progress speed is locked behind the stockpile level, and I don't think any off-worlders were contributing to another worlds stockpile, only invaded the zone for the fate and then left. At least that is what I experienced, but could be different on other DCs.
    Moogle unlocked the 1st fate on tuesday at around 9pm
    Moogle unlocked the 2nd fate on wednesday at around 9pm
    Moogle is at 40% to unlock 3rd fate on thirsday at around 9pm
    But yeah wanderers were just leeching...
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  4. #394
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alucard135 View Post
    Sounds more of a bad planning on your part. I never ran into the issue you mentioned in your post, simply because I have everything prepared an hour in advance. I would spend time gathering all the mats I needed, then spend the hr before the FATE starts in crafting. I would even have a lot left over for when I jump to another server that is about to start in an hour after mine ends. Which is why I easily leveled my ALC, got tons of scrips and EXP. Is this an exploitation of the system now?
    600+ of each material needed for stoves is not "bad planning". I had each crafting/gathering class leveled well before things were simplified, and I gather my own materials for crafting (also, considering crystals needed), as I don't like relying on the market board to get anything done. This also means I run out of things eventually and have to leave, which is why, in that post I quoted, I ran out of mats eventually and just made food instead. The firmament kept filling up 1:30-2:00 hours before because of the wanders and I knew this, which is why I and others stuck around so as not to lose a spot.

    As for your own supposed crafting, you know very well of what I refer to when I mention exploiting the system (server hopping to grab other servers fates without contributing), so don't even start. Are you seriously going to claim to have crafted a ton of items for each server you jumped to? Really now? Your attempt at a "gotcha" moment or what have you falls flat given your own post history. I have every reason to be skeptical of what you were doing before the change. I could, of course, be wrong, but that's highly unlikely at this point.
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  5. #395
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirhd View Post
    The firmament kept filling up 1:30-2:00 hours before because of the wanders and I knew this, which is why I and others stuck around so as not to lose a spot.
    Because you have not actually been in the situation many times where you had to leave to gather mats like I have done when on other worlds, so you don't know what's the good time to start crafting in the instance. One hour before the FATE is when you should start crafting and not leave the instance. Not 1:30 to 2 hours. I have been to Midgardsormr and other worlds an hour before the FATE is up many times and easily got in. If you have been active on other worlds, you would have known this and not ended up getting locked in your own instance not able to leave to get the mats you needed for a good 30min to an hour.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mirhd View Post
    Are you seriously going to claim to have crafted a ton of items for each server you jumped to? Really now? Your attempt at a "gotcha" moment or what have you falls flat given your own post history. I have every reason to be skeptical of what you were doing before the change. I could, of course, be wrong, but that's highly unlikely at this point.
    I'm only there for an hour. How many items do you expect someone to craft in that time? Yes, I have crafted for other worlds. Else I wouldn't have another crafter leveled up easily if I wasted all these hours doing nothing.
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  6. #396
    Player Sesera's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirhd View Post
    Are you seriously going to claim to have crafted a ton of items for each server you jumped to? Really now? Your attempt at a "gotcha" moment or what have you falls flat given your own post history. I have every reason to be skeptical of what you were doing before the change. I could, of course, be wrong, but that's highly unlikely at this point.
    There is no point in just standing on another world not trying to get the fate to spawn. The leechers/stealers like you called them were the people trying to join during the 2h window before the fate and most of them were locked out anyway.
    Of course some of them were able to get in and get the fate done over natives but the majority of them were people helping and who stayed 2 long hours waiting for the fate.
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  7. #397
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    Ara Myth
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    How are you guys telling what the progress is on other servers?
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  8. #398
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    Momomi Momi
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramyth View Post
    How are you guys telling what the progress is on other servers?
    A person from that server reports their status and the information gets relayed to all other servers.

    For example:
    Leviathan 47% (Updated 6:00PM GMT/10:00AM PST/1:00PM EST)
    Excalibur 45~% (Updated 8:00PM GMT/12:00PM PST/3:00PM EST)
    Ultros 39% (Updated 6:00PM GMT/10:00AM PST/1:00PM EST)
    Behemoth 38% (Updated 6:00PM GMT/10:00AM PST/1:00PM EST)
    Exodus 30% (Updated 6:00PM GMT/10:00AM PST/1:00PM EST)
    Hyperion 27% (Updated 6:00PM GMT/10:00AM PST/1:00PM EST)
    Lamia 25% (Updated 6:00PM GMT/10:00AM PST/1:00PM EST)
    Famfrit 21% (Updated 6:00PM GMT/10:00AM PST/1:00PM EST)
    This is more or less what Primal looks like.
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  9. #399
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramyth View Post
    How are you guys telling what the progress is on other servers?
    You can go to loadstone and check.
    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...rogress_report
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  10. #400
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alucard135 View Post
    Because you have not actually been in the situation many times where you had to leave to gather mats like I have done when on other worlds, so you don't know what's the good time to start crafting in the instance. One hour before the FATE is when you should start crafting and not leave the instance. Not 1:30 to 2 hours. I have been to Midgardsormr and other worlds an hour before the FATE is up many times and easily got in. If you have been active on other worlds, you would have known this and not ended up getting locked in your own instance not able to leave to get the mats you needed for a good 30min to an hour.

    I'm only there for an hour. How many items do you expect someone to craft in that time? Yes, I have crafted for other worlds. Else I wouldn't have another crafter leveled up easily if I wasted all these hours doing nothing.
    Yeah, calling nonsense on this one. I actually did/do go back and forth to my servers' firmament, gathering and crafting, but for some reason you took that as entering once. If you actually gather and craft as much as you claim, you'd realise that having to gather again is inevitable. I didn't server hop, thanks, because I didn't think it was right to take up a slot for a server native.

    You haven't been to my server "many times", or else you'd have seen how crowded it got, and it was even worse the closer it got to the fate popping. Now? Now, we won't have to deal with that nonsense, and for that I'm grateful. I'd appreciate it if you stopped claiming you "helped servers" when your posts clearly show otherwise. You went from encouraging people to server hop, to stating you were "helping"? Sure, seems perfectly believable.
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