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  1. #11
    Player
    Shadygrove's Avatar
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    Alya Mizar
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by Noitems View Post
    I just wanted to ask since I'm new to really doing the high end crafting. Are the numbers people posting after food? I haven't checked my numbers but I'm basically all in Lvl 80 430 gear and didn't want to try tackling the lvl 80 delivery since I was worried I wouldn't be able to make it.
    We usually post before food / meds.

    No promises for anyone other than me.
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  2. #12
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    Caimie Tsukino
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Here's mine
    I use my specialist to do it, but the rotation has no specialist skills.
    Minimum CP requirement for my rotation is 556 CP if reuse didn't pop (616 CP if reuse pops.)

    I'm still using all the old level 80 gear without a single Facet gear (too lazy to make new gear and remeld, LOL)
    So my naked stats (on specialist) are:
    2226 craft
    2151 control
    554 CP

    I use an HQ Seafood stew to reach
    2226 craft
    2182 control
    604 CP

    Then I use HQ Cunning Craftsman's Tea to reach
    617 CP ...just enough for the 616 CP rotation to use "Reuse".


    /ac Reflect <wait.3>
    /ac Ingenuity <wait.2>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac Manipulation <wait.3>
    /ac Ingenuity <wait.2>
    /ac Innovation <wait.2>
    /ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /echo Ishgard 1 ended <se.2>

    /ac "Ingenuity" <wait.2>
    /ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /echo Ishgard 2 ended - check condition <se.4>

    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
    /ac "Reuse" <wait.4>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /echo Ishgard 3 ended <se.6>

    I never really calculated how much collectability I get, but I'm always >3840 with pure NQ mats. Usually ~3900 and sometimes hitting max when conditions are right.

    It's a lot of fun making these macros! ^_^

    EDIT: For the Updated Macro please see 2 posts below!
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    Last edited by Caimie_Tsukino; 11-15-2019 at 03:06 PM.

  3. #13
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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino View Post
    Here's mine
    I use my specialist to do it, but the rotation has no specialist skills.
    Minimum CP requirement for my rotation is 556 CP if reuse didn't pop (616 CP if reuse pops.)

    I'm still using all the old level 80 gear without a single Facet gear (too lazy to make new gear and remeld, LOL)
    So my naked stats (on specialist) are:
    2226 craft
    2151 control
    554 CP

    I use an HQ Seafood stew to reach
    2226 craft
    2182 control
    604 CP

    Then I use HQ Cunning Craftsman's Tea to reach
    617 CP ...just enough for the 616 CP rotation to use "Reuse".


    /ac Reflect <wait.3>
    /ac Ingenuity <wait.2>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac Manipulation <wait.3>
    /ac Ingenuity <wait.2>
    /ac Innovation <wait.2>
    /ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /echo Ishgard 1 ended <se.2>

    /ac "Ingenuity" <wait.2>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
    /echo Ishgard 2 ended - check condition <se.4>

    /ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
    /ac "Reuse" <wait.4>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /echo Ishgard 3 ended <se.6>

    I never really calculated how much collectability I get, but I'm always >3840 with pure NQ mats. Usually ~3900 and sometimes hitting max when conditions are right.

    It's a lot of fun making these macros! ^_^
    I'll have to try this. My macro gets max collectibility, but uses ~600 CP to do it. I don't really need max collectibility.
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    Last edited by Ryaz; 11-15-2019 at 04:15 AM.

  4. #14
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    Caimie_Tsukino's Avatar
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    Caimie Tsukino
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    Zalera
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaz View Post
    I'll have to try this. My maceo gets max collectibility, but uses ~600 CP to do it. I don't really need max collectibility.
    So... It's probably not worth to eat that HQ Seafood Stew + HQ medicine to get that much CP for the small chance of Reuse, which only returns a cheap mat. I now just use the low CP (556 CP) version by kicking out the Reuse from the rotation. This means I just need to eat a NQ stone soup, which cost 37 gil, LOL. That will leave me with 2151 control, but I'm sure it'll be just fine!

    UPDATE: Stone Soup is still too much of a hassle! I swapped out the final Careful Syn with a Basic Syn, so now I just need 549 CP -- so I don't need food.

    Here's the updated macro:

    /ac Reflect <wait.3>
    /ac Ingenuity <wait.2>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac Manipulation <wait.3>
    /ac Ingenuity <wait.2>
    /ac Innovation <wait.2>
    /ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /echo Ishgard 1 (549CP) ended <se.2>

    /ac "Ingenuity" <wait.2>
    /ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /echo Ishgard 2 (549CP) ended - check condition <se.4>

    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /echo Ishgard 3 (549CP) ended <se.6>
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    Last edited by Caimie_Tsukino; 11-15-2019 at 03:05 PM.

    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

  5. #15
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    Noitems Ever
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Espritduo View Post

    Out of curiosity, I made a rotation with the lowest stats I could manage. Uses Blood Bouillabaisse NQ, and the Craftsmanship is only 8 above the cap requirement to even attempt the craft and the Control is ridiculously low, so as long as you have the CP, which is also nowhere near the cap, you can do this rotation.

    This one interests me greatly, since my stats are 2152,1984, and 464 without food. So I'm guessing the rotation is just looking at the images
    Reflect
    Manipulation
    Ingenuity
    Innovation
    Prudent
    Delicate
    Delicate
    Delicate
    Ingenuity
    Innovation
    Delicate
    Prudent
    Prudent
    Great Strides
    Innovation
    Ingeunity
    Prepatory Touch
    Great Strides
    Byregot's
    Observe
    Focused Synth


    I'm new to this all so I just want to make sure I have this down.
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  6. #16
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
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    Lamia
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Noitems View Post
    I just wanted to ask since I'm new to really doing the high end crafting. Are the numbers people posting after food? I haven't checked my numbers but I'm basically all in Lvl 80 430 gear and didn't want to try tackling the lvl 80 delivery since I was worried I wouldn't be able to make it.
    I mean, the mats for the level 80 delivery arent that hard to come by. Its 24 gathered mats(3 sets of 8) plus an extra thing per class. Take 10 mins, gather enough to make 3 or 4 shots at the combine. Then just try it out. The penalty for failure would be the loss of 15-20 mins(gathering plus crafting) and a handful of crystals - nothing more.
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  7. #17
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    Alex Greaver
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    Brynhildr
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    Machinist Lv 70
    This is all very enlightening. Since the change to crafting, I have been inclined to participate in it. Before, it was just too much, I couldn’t make heads or tails on how people made anything in HQ when it was max level 1-star recipes or above.

    Anywho, I am still leveling and am doing the level 70 hand-ins. However, even with the level 70 the script stuff, I can’t reach the 30k collectibility needed for max exp acquisition. Can somebody help?

    I have 1645/1539/400. I have looked everywhere but all the discussions and rotations I find are for level 80. Any ideas?

    Thanks in advance!
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  8. #18
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    Noitems Ever
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    Goblin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frizze View Post
    I mean, the mats for the level 80 delivery arent that hard to come by. Its 24 gathered mats(3 sets of 8) plus an extra thing per class. Take 10 mins, gather enough to make 3 or 4 shots at the combine. Then just try it out. The penalty for failure would be the loss of 15-20 mins(gathering plus crafting) and a handful of crystals - nothing more.
    I'm shy on wind Crystals sadly so I'm just trying to judge it out first because I'm not used to the new changes. Hearing from all of this though does make me want to try since I've been pumping out the level 70 crafts like crazy and it's taken a big toll on said wind crystals, haha.
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  9. #19
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    Blain Adamant
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Noitems View Post
    This one interests me greatly, since my stats are 2152,1984, and 464 without food. So I'm guessing the rotation is just looking at the images
    Reflect
    Manipulation
    Ingenuity
    Innovation
    Prudent
    Delicate
    Delicate
    Delicate
    Ingenuity
    Innovation
    Delicate
    Prudent
    Prudent
    Great Strides
    Innovation
    Ingeunity
    Prepatory Touch
    Great Strides
    Byregot's
    Observe
    Focused Synth


    I'm new to this all so I just want to make sure I have this down.
    You could use my rotation, it uses a bit less CP than Caimie's and with your low stats, you are still able to reach the needed 3'500 collectability. However, due to your low CP you need Food buffs.

    /ac Reflect <wait.3>
    /ac Ingenuity <wait.2>
    /ac Innovation <wait.2>
    /ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Master's Mend" <wait.3>
    /ac Ingenuity <wait.2>
    /ac Innovation <wait.2>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /echo Macro #1 finished <se.1>

    /ac Ingenuity <wait.2>
    /ac Innovation <wait.2>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /echo Craft finished <se.3>
    It uses 541 CP, so you need to eat HQ blood bouillabaisse and cunning tea (HQ) or syrup (NQ).

    With higher stats (more craftsmanship and control) you can change the rotation to replace one delicate synthesis with a prudent touch (saved 7 CP) and delete the last prudent touch (saves 25 CP), so you only need 509 CP. This is what I do.
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    Last edited by Seyb; 11-15-2019 at 12:14 AM.

  10. #20
    Player
    Caimie_Tsukino's Avatar
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    Caimie Tsukino
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    Zalera
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Noitems View Post
    This one interests me greatly, since my stats are 2152,1984, and 464 without food. So I'm guessing the rotation is just looking at the images
    Reflect
    Manipulation
    Ingenuity
    Innovation
    Prudent
    Delicate
    Delicate
    Delicate
    Ingenuity
    Innovation
    Delicate
    Prudent
    Prudent
    Great Strides
    Innovation
    Ingeunity
    Prepatory Touch
    Great Strides
    Byregot's
    Observe
    Focused Synth


    I'm new to this all so I just want to make sure I have this down.
    That rotation needs 583 CP though. You will need some strong CP food if you only have 464 CP.
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    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

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