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  1. #21
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    I really, really do not want the rewards from the restoration rankings to be anything more then cosmetic because tying actual benefits to such just makes it even more likely for it to be swamped with the cheaters.

    I'm already seeing tons of bots at the restoration-related nodes and more of them overall ever since 5.1 dropped (You'd think making DoH/L easier would've had the opposite effect...but evidently not).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaz View Post
    I don't want lewd glam. I want cool looking gear, not stuff with my butt hanging out.

    I do... This needs to happen
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I really, really do not want the rewards from the restoration rankings to be anything more then cosmetic because tying actual benefits to such just makes it even more likely for it to be swamped with the cheaters.

    I'm already seeing tons of bots at the restoration-related nodes and more of them overall ever since 5.1 dropped (You'd think making DoH/L easier would've had the opposite effect...but evidently not).
    Good point. Honestly, as long as these rewards are at least cosmetic, it’ll give hardcore or serious crafters a bragging right item. If PVPers with their Feast items and hardcore raiders with their ultimate and savages items can get bragging rights, I do not see why crafters should be an exception when completing dozens or even hundreds of difficult proc/RNG based recipes during Ishgard in 5.2+.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ksenia View Post
    I do... This needs to happen
    lol! If something like that was put in the game as a Top 10 Ishgard reward, casual crafters would turn into hardcore crafters over the course of a week, that’s for sure. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by CookiesNCreams View Post
    Honestly, as long as these rewards are at least cosmetic, it’ll give hardcore or serious crafters a bragging right item.
    What, like the Blessed achievement tools for completing the crafting log? Those are pretty swaggy.
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    @ Cookie
    1.
    lewd
    (ljuːd , US luːd )
    adjective
    If you describe someone's behaviour as lewd, you are critical of it because it is sexual in a rude and unpleasant way.
    [disapproval]
    Drew spends all day eyeing up the women and making lewd comments.
    Synonyms: indecent, obscene, vulgar, dirty

    More synonyms:

    indecent
    obscene
    vulgar
    dirty
    blue
    loose (old-fashioned)
    vile
    pornographic
    wicked
    wanton
    X-rated (informal)
    profligate
    bawdy
    salacious
    impure
    lascivious
    smutty
    lustful
    libidinous
    licentious
    unchaste
    https://www.collinsdictionary.com/di...y/english/lewd

    2.
    Definition of lewd

    1a : obscene, vulgar lewd remarks
    b : sexually unchaste or licentious (see licentious sense 1) lewd behavior
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lewd
    I see nothing attractive in the above definitions.

    Also, you’re not exactly off to a good start with me
    Really!

    Then you go to call me condescending because of your rude statement.
    He called you condescending because of your inflammable attitude towards anyone who disagrees with you; you keep pointing fingers, calling others "rude" and more often than not you indirectly hover the threat of ban over their heads. The irony in all these offences you take is that human beings can't really see such flaws in others if they don't exist within them.

    Have a nice day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ishgardian View Post
    @ Cookie


    I see nothing attractive in the above definitions.


    Really!


    He called you condescending because of your inflammable attitude towards anyone who disagrees with you; you keep pointing fingers, calling others "rude" and more often than not you indirectly hover the threat of ban over their heads. The irony in all these offences you take is that human beings can't really see such flaws in others if they don't exist within them.

    Have a nice day.
    Useless post, you are also a prime example of who I’m talking about. Pretty odd coming from someone who is literally being inflammable. Also, nobody is threatening to “ban” anyone. I was implying that using alts is a bannable offense, as someone has been banned for doing so in the past. 34 posts and you choose to use it to say some garbage like that, really sad. Most outfits in this game are skimpy, so if that bothers you, play a different game. If you want to discuss crafting, I’m all for a discussion. If you want to start issues, you can kindly get put on the Ignore List, mkay? Mkay.

    Have a nice day!

    Quote Originally Posted by Aurida View Post
    What, like the Blessed achievement tools for completing the crafting log? Those are pretty swaggy.
    Yeah, but I mean anyone can do that. It’s not really a “bragging right” worthy item to be honest. My problem with the whole thing is this.... when I’m doing Ishgard restoration and I’m farming for points to be Top 5 on the leaderboards, I would hope my journey to Top 5 isn’t a cake walk. I would like other hardcore players butting heads with me to reach that Top 5. Doesn’t that sound cool?

    I can’t really get that if the rewards are just titles, mounts, glam, and a few hairstyles here and there. The competition won’t be as intense. If it’s something like Lucis Tools back in 2.0 where you had to grind it to unlock it, my journey to Top 5 will be very challenging. It’ll be challenging for any hardcore player, really. Because everyone wants that new high stat exclusive tool or gear piece.

    And that’s my point. I personally don’t have a problem with cosmetics, so I do agree with you guys there. But since Square Enix wants this to be something to give back to hardcore players, they are going to have to do what I suggested in this thread.
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    Last edited by CookiesNCreams; 11-14-2019 at 07:58 PM.

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    I don’t think that glamour has to be lewd for people to pursue it. As long as it’s cool-looking or looks nice on my character, I’ll do what I can to try and earn a piece of glamour.

    My only concern for rewards strictly for the top of the leaderboards is that most will likely go to crafting/gathering bots that automate this entire process. Legitimate crafters will likely be very few. But this is a concern with the leaderboard in general—even if there weren’t rewards attached, I’d expect to mostly see players that frequently bot crafting on there as opposed to legitimate crafters who craft manually all day because they enjoy it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    I don’t think that glamour has to be lewd for people to pursue it. As long as it’s cool-looking or looks nice on my character, I’ll do what I can to try and earn a piece of glamour.

    My only concern for rewards strictly for the top of the leaderboards is that most will likely go to crafting/gathering bots that automate this entire process. Legitimate crafters will likely be very few. But this is a concern with the leaderboard in general—even if there weren’t rewards attached, I’d expect to mostly see players that frequently bot crafting on there as opposed to legitimate crafters who craft manually all day because they enjoy it.
    For normal crafters, yes, they will attempt it. For most hardcore crafters, they most likely will not do it unless it is what I’ve said. Just being honest here.

    As for leaderboards, yes, we just have to hope Yoshida comes up with a way to prevent bots. Unlikely they will, but who knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CookiesNCreams View Post
    For normal crafters, yes, they will attempt it. For most hardcore crafters, they most likely will not do it unless it is what I’ve said. Just being honest here.
    With regards to this, you may be speaking for people you know—but I’m speaking for people I know as well. If a glamour looks cool (and not necessarily lewd), they will pursue it. The insinuation that it has to be lewd doesn’t apply to everyone.

    As for leaderboards, yes, we just have to hope Yoshida comes up with a way to prevent bots. Unlikely they will, but who knows.
    They can’t even ban them despite multiple reports. So I doubt they’ll prevent them from flooding the tops of the leaderboards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    With regards to this, you may be speaking for people you know—but I’m speaking for people I know as well. If a glamour looks cool (and not necessarily lewd), they will pursue it. The insinuation that it has to be lewd doesn’t apply to everyone.



    They can’t even ban them despite multiple reports. So I doubt they’ll prevent them from flooding the tops of the leaderboards.
    That’s fair. To be honest, I just want intense competition for Top 5. If it’s lewd glam or (Final Fantasy XV Cindy Glam)...something of the sort...oh boy, I’ll see a ton of players butting heads for a top tier position on the leaderboards. It’ll be so fun! I’m definitely going to at least get Top 10 when it’s released, especially if the recipes are as difficult as Yoshida claims them to be!

    And yes, it does suck, like, a lot. But, we just have to hope Yoshida comes up with something. I would hate to see a bunch of useless bots grabbing reward spots and they aren’t even real humans.
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