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    DynnDiablos's Avatar
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    Shai Rae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cled-cat View Post
    It’s a joke. They’re still so half baked and they’ve made it clear it’s no priority of them to upgrade them. Can’t wait to see all the sycophant apologists crawl out the woodworks to shut down any genuine criticism of how SE handled the new races... I really don’t see how understand how this can keep being excused.
    I don't wear headgear ever and always keep it turned off. I like my hairstyle options. Do I agree they need more for both Viera and Hrothgar, yes. Am I happy my character model and face has way more polygons and details than you'll ever have? Heck yes! I will take a more detailed character model over hairstyle options and headgear. I look freaking fantastic in cutscenes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    I don't wear headgear ever and always keep it turned off. I like my hairstyle options. Do I agree they need more for both Viera and Hrothgar, yes. Am I happy my character model and face has way more polygons and details than you'll ever have? Heck yes! I will take a more detailed character model over hairstyle options and headgear. I look freaking fantastic in cutscenes.
    Square can't use this as an excuse when independent modders have not only increased the resolution of the faces and hair on old races, but have also made in-game hairstyles work on viera. Hrothgar are more challenging due to the poor way they were designed though.
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    Ethan Vayne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiba_Whitewolf View Post
    Square can't use this as an excuse when independent modders have not only increased the resolution of the faces and hair on old races, but have also made in-game hairstyles work on viera. Hrothgar are more challenging due to the poor way they were designed though.
    Modders don't have deadlines and stockholders breathing down their neck.
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    Zedek Kusakabe
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    Modders don't have deadlines and stockholders breathing down their neck.
    Modders also do not do it full-time and do not get paid for that (which closes with the first part of the sentence). They do not drive into an office as full-time fully paid game designer. Especially deadlines should mean the actual staff get something done, innit?

    Stop defending such stuff. Square Enix, RIOT Games and ArenaNet always come up with ridiculous statements. I do not believe it takes hundreds of work hours (translates as 4 days full-time of one single person) for some hairstyles or headgear. ArenaNet for example says it takes 9 months to develop a set of gear. Because of the genders and such. 9 months! Let one person work 37.5 hours/week on it and take away a generous 1 month of vacation, it is 345 hours of work. And they work in teams, so go and multiply.

    That would mean the current 1.0 or 2.0 hairstyles ALONE would have taken literal years alone to develop. Do you really believe that?

    I do not believe a single bit what any video game company say about that. RIOT took 4 years for a replay tool - something a random guy did in his sparetime 3 years prior on his own, without support.

    Haha, tell it to the marines, dude..

    Sincerely,
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    Ethan Vayne
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKusakabe View Post
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    Since I don't particularly care about what you want to complain about, I'm going to clarify I wasn't making an excuse or a defense, just giving a legitimate reason as to why.
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    Last edited by ErryK; 11-13-2019 at 07:06 AM.



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    Kevin Graham
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKusakabe View Post
    [FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"][SIZE="3"]Modders also do not do it full-time and do not get paid for that (which closes with the first part of the sentence). They do not drive into an office as full-time fully paid game designer. Especially deadlines should mean the actual staff get something done, innit?
    yeah. i hope that square didnt become bethesda, their game is laughable without mod.
    one thing that tickle me off is this game is a money maker for them, yet they burned all our cash for other game. why yuo let this happen yoshida?? if one of the mod see this post, please tell yoshida the monetarist of Uldah want their money back.
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiba_Whitewolf View Post
    Square can't use this as an excuse when independent modders have not only increased the resolution of the faces and hair on old races, but have also made in-game hairstyles work on viera. Hrothgar are more challenging due to the poor way they were designed though.
    And the mods glitch like crazy and don't work with everything. You think SE would tolerate that?

    Yes we need more hairstyles added and I will admit it's disappointing that we didn't get anything for 5.1. Lets hope that won't be the case moving forward.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 11-13-2019 at 08:16 AM.

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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    And the mods glitch like crazy and don't work with everything. You think SE would tolerate that?
    Quite a few of their own creations clip with the character models, including some of the gear sold exclusively through the Mog Station.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Quite a few of their own creations clip with the character models, including some of the gear sold exclusively through the Mog Station.
    Clipping isn't what i'm talking about and please don't go there if you're trying to defend the mod community. And let me add that mods are client side and not server side. If they were the whole game would come crashing down.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alucard135 View Post
    Yet people kept saying that new races aren't gonna be taxing to the game and should also add the other genders even if they're incomplete. At least the current content delivery isn't affected and we're getting more stuff than we got in SB.
    We aren't getting the missing genders it's pretty obvious how difficult it's been to add these two let alone two more with tons of new content that needs to be adjusted for 5.0.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 11-13-2019 at 08:58 AM.

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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Clipping isn't what i'm talking about and please don't go there if you're trying to defend the mod community. And let me add that mods are client side and not server side. If they were the whole game would come crashing down.
    They've had a number of requests to add things - such as new facial hair options for male characters - only to claim it would be too hard despite modders managing to implement it in a way that looks good. So I'll admit to not having much patience, especially when situations such as this arise. Hrothgar and Viera players deserve better.
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