So, what's all coming in 5.11 again?

[Rasikko]

My highest level crafter is level 24, and my highest level gatherer is 2. There is no way I could be bothered to level any of it, unless there was a crafting bag like in ESO, or a huge streamline, and even then I doubt I'd level it. Even if they did add crafting level boosts I probably still wouldn't level them to 80, or if I did it would probably be next expansion by the time, and the only reason I would do it would be for beast tribe cosmetics or something.

Yeah stay away from crafting in this case. You'll just end up needing to level all of them (the crafting trap) and inventory will be any more of a mess.

[Iscah]

Your hot take is "I dont like the way crafting works in this game so it should be easier so i can do it anyway?"

That seems like the equivalent of saying ultimate fights should be killable by everyone who spends even a small amount of time on them.

Yes, and I would like to be able to to clear savage raids by just queuing for them.

Step 1 - Queue for raid.
Step 2 - Wait for raid to pop.
Step 3 - The queue pops. Immediately, a cutscene plays of my character beating up the raid boss or whatever. I automatically get the loot I want and the duty is marked as cleared.

Because some people don't want to sink hours and hours into wiping, which they may consider unenjoyable.

I don't see the two as equatable.

Savage/Ultimate raids are "endgame" content. Stuff you take on when you're at the top level of the PvE game with the best equipment and practiced skills. It gets you nowhere except the ability to claim you beat it, and now own equipment that you don't really need for any other content. I don't do it, and certainly don't expect to get a free pass that somehow completes it anyway.

Crafting is "leveling" content, same as battle classes (with an endgame I probably won't touch either). The game encourages everyone to do it for a range of goals including:

- earning GC seals from supply requests
- seeing the quest storylines (some of which are good and/or lore-expanding)
- participating in the Ixal, Moogle and Namazu tribe quests
- participating in the custom delivery storylines
- repair and possibly craft your own gear
- craft your own house elements and furniture
- enjoy being self-sufficient
- help your FC build stuff in the company workshop
- get access to a lot of glamours

It might not be "hard" but it takes a long time, especially if you want to tick off all the things in the crafting log and earn the related achievements. I'm still only halfway to earning most of the Lv50/60 'golden' tools.

Even if you didn't have to manual-craft items - say, if Quick Synthesis *was* how you crafted anything - it would still be a lot of work and time investment to level them. Gather the items you need, craft the mid-stage ingredients before you can assemble the final product.

...now I'm having sudden flashbacks to Atelier Iris and the hellish loop that was gathering mini gems, taking them to the alchemist to fuse into big gems, hiking through an entire dungeon to spend gems at the fairy shop... with an item limit of nine-of-anything. And you needed a lot of rare items from the shop that cost three gems each, and one trip to the alchemist got you four gems. No manual crafting required, but that didn't make it not a heck of a lot of work.

But anyway. Restoring Ishgard, one of my favourite places in the game, and a questline involving Francel, who I have been hoping for ages will finally get to "do something" and find some happiness.

Crafting is very much a selling point for many players, though. Especially since it gives them something to do during quiet periods. Making it entirely automated would be a mistake - and a quick look at the lodestone profiles reveals that the same players pushing for that to happen don't really dabble in many elements of the game to begin with.

Given the current conversation, that sounds like you're taking a shot at my profile. Did you look at it or are you just being generically dismissive?

I most certainly do "dabble in many elements of the game" - perhaps more dabbling than deep-diving, but I definitely have a lot of areas of the game covered.

(Link if anyone cares. I'm not showing off, just not much liking the insinuation that I don't put time and effort into the game.)

[ElazulHP]

Oh wow I totally didn't realize Ishgardian Restoration was coming out today! :O

[KageTokage]

There was no mention of a limit to how often you can do Restoration turn-ins which seems...odd as it's highly unlikely that it's not going to invalidate all other forms of DoH leveling if you can just spam collectables made with vendor items forever due to the sheer convenience.

[Barraind]

There was no mention of a limit to how often you can do Restoration turn-ins which seems...odd as it's highly unlikely that it's not going to invalidate all other forms of DoH leveling if you can just spam collectables made with vendor items forever due to the sheer convenience.

It looks like the items are going to need new gathered stuff, so it sounds like itll end up just being a competitor for rowena.

[ForteNightshade]

There was no mention of a limit to how often you can do Restoration turn-ins which seems...odd as it's highly unlikely that it's not going to invalidate all other forms of DoH leveling if you can just spam collectables made with vendor items forever due to the sheer convenience.

Given what they've done with crafting so far. I wouldn't be surprised if they killed off levekits too.

[Granyala]

There was no mention of a limit to how often you can do Restoration turn-ins which seems...odd as it's highly unlikely that it's not going to invalidate all other forms of DoH leveling if you can just spam collectables made with vendor items forever due to the sheer convenience.

Uuh as far as I've seen, there is no vendor for the mats required. You have to gather or buy them from other players.

So far IR is just Rowena in a winterly coat. The mass construction events might be cool... depending on the scheduling.

[Saintly]

Since i couldnt find any info anywhere i might as well ask here.

Anyone know if restoration of Ishgard will always be available or is more like a limited time event?

[DynnDiablos]

I can't get the Restoration crafting/gathering log to show up anywhere. No clue what to even turn in.

[Ultimatecalibur]

I can't get the Restoration crafting/gathering log to show up anywhere. No clue what to even turn in.

Once you unlock Restoration you will have the recipes added to a new section of the Special Recipe tab in the Ishgard Restoration sub-tab. Each crafting class has 5 new recipes (One each of 20/40/60/70/80).

The new gathering mats are all named "Skybuilder's [Material name]" and can be gathered at new nodes that regularly have between +3 and +9 yields.