SE, the concept of "Limited Jobs" is a really bad idea, turn back now

[Physic]

Physic, multiple times have legitimate solutions and arguments been brought before you, on several occasions I have wondered whether you actually understood, as more often than not it just looked like you completely ignored stuff.
We have tackled the fundamentals, and they do not stand up to scrutiny.

You're defending the indefensible on a matter that doesn't even require "limited jobs" to completely disappear. they just need to be revisioned as many others have also suggested that can be done, or could have been done differently from the start, because if they had enough resources for a job that inevitably would have required further content, unless it was doomed to stay at 50, they could have applied the same on the already existing classes.

Thus, for others who are deaf to reason and don't want to really come to the discussion table, I have only this left to say:

This tragedy...

Greater even than the Eureka calamity... must be undone.

If limited jobs must be unwritten, let them be unwritten.

Become what you must. Become the full job Blue Mage.

-Small Indie Company Inc.

first off they dont exactly need different content, old content is fun as blu mage, but if not new content, they would need new incentives.

also, my main problem with some suggestions is just that its not realistic that they would balance any job twice, in/out of duty finder.

while i would love a non duty finder monk, with more interaction with mitigation, and counter. I recognize there is no way they would commit to doing that for all classes.

I also recognize, as much as i may think bending thier core job/df design philosophies would not hurt, they have resisted it at every turn, and its unlikely they will budge on that.

so that leaves two options that i believe SE would actually choose.

1) deconstruct limited job completely. Convert blue mage to standard rules, all future jobs follow the formula
2) blue mage and other limited jobs get refined, but stay mostly seperate from normal duty finder existence.


i prefer the 2nd, you prefer the first. You have your reasons, i have mine. I'd say there is 50% chance they go your way in the long run. I'd prefer they don't. time will tell. Good luck

[Videra]

This really deserves to be kicked right back up to the top. Almost a whole year later, and ignored.

[Raikai]

I'm willing to give this 5.1 BLU a second chance to see how it will be with the changes/implementations.

For starters, the 1st thing wrong with the job is the name "Limited"... It sounds way to degrogatory for a feature of the game.

The main problem with BLU, in my pov, is not that is a "sidegame" thing, but the fact that
a) It doesn't live for the publicity that was made around it, because (among many other reasons) it relies a lot on groups still
b) its "endgame" is meh at best... Masked Carnivale has little incentive and it's repetitive if you are going just for the fun aspect

I'm willing to wait for 5.1.5 to see how the job will become, because they clearly stated that the 1st iteration in SB was but a test-drive of it.

[Shurrikhan]

For starters, the 1st thing wrong with the job is the name "Limited"... It sounds way to degrogatory for a feature of the game.

At least it's more honest than the word "Job" that follows it...

[Lambdafish]

This really deserves to be kicked right back up to the top. Almost a whole year later, and ignored.

What do you even mean ignored? We are getting new BLU content in 5.15, whether that makes BLU more worthwhile still remains to be seen, but the Devs ignoring your pipedream fantasy for the job isn't problematic, addressing the real issues is.

[Videra]

What do you even mean ignored? We are getting new BLU content in 5.15, whether that makes BLU more worthwhile still remains to be seen, but the Devs ignoring your pipedream fantasy for the job isn't problematic, addressing the real issues is.

Please, insult me more.

Anyway, to correct you - expecting a class in the game to be functional and worthwhile, especially when there are means to make it so. (IE: Templates for duty finder, new spells designed specifically for class functionality, amongst other things.) That's not a 'pipedream fantasy'. Try again. People have offered their criticism over this 'limited job' farce since it was first announced, and it has most likely been entirely ignored being that the overwhelmingly negative response to it hasn't even been acknowledged. Square tends to do that.

[Mansion]

What do you even mean ignored? We are getting new BLU content in 5.15, whether that makes BLU more worthwhile still remains to be seen, but the Devs ignoring your pipedream fantasy for the job isn't problematic, addressing the real issues is.

If I may, there's a middle ground between providing feedback and wild fantasies we've seen about how BLU could be a full job.
But it's true there has be... not so much Dev feedback on this one. Apart from nerfs to acquisition rate and now the upcoming BLU, that's not really addressing the broad problem most people have pointed.

BLU is boring. It's funny for a time then falls into oblivion. There are no rewards, no incentive to play it, and it's kind of punishing to use it somehow.


So we'll see what's happening in 5.15, but I can bet the problem will be the same. People will play it a bit then will forget it, and pity the "waste" of resources that went into this content when they could have been used to build a proper full job, or something else with a better gameplay design.

[Thamorian]

This really deserves to be kicked right back up to the top. Almost a whole year later, and ignored.

NO it doesn't need to be kicked back to the top. It's not an issue.

[Deceptus]

They made this amazingly overpowered limited job. . .

Where many mobs are literally immune to it's best spells (5.1 changed a lot of mob resistances so you can't tail screw / missile / doom anymore)

[Brightshadow]

NO it doesn't need to be kicked back to the top. It's not an issue.

Just because Blue Mage might not be the job for you doesn't mean it's not an issue. Imagine if your main job was kept below level cap, can't be used in the majority of content, and hasn't received any updates for 1 year to make it more playable. You sure as hell would be complaining.

There is nothing wrong with a job being different, but atleast take in feedback from the fans. If Blue Mage was supposed to be a solo job than make it a solo job but in the current level 80 content not in old outdated content that it can't even solo because it's so squishy and basically has similar damage output to the other jobs except for some gimmick spells that don't work the majority of the time.