Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[SDaemon]

when most of them are eating vuln stacks for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

No second breakfast?

[Mesarthim]

They ran out of Lembas Bread.

[ForteNightshade]

That's not very good math. if a healer is rezzing with out swift it costs both them and the dead person 3 gcds. Unless the rdm is in their melee combo or the healer has swift cast available within the next couple of gcds the rdm verraising is always the lower dps loss.

That dead person is getting a 25% penalty. Their GCDs aren't worth much. You're also not accounting for RDM having weak MP sustainability nor their GCDs being worth more. That isn't to say they shouldn't ever use Verraise but healers should be expected to hard raise. More often than not, you'll see them refuse to do so without Swift. Which is the problem.

Admittedly, it'd be better to say expecting the RDM to continuously Verraise is where the DPS loss becomes a bigger factor.

[Aviconus]

Haukke Manor, I'm tank. We load in and I start running forward to pull. Just as i'm beginning to pull 2 group, someone says that someone DC'd (they didn't), so I bring the pack back and 3 of us kill em. The "DC'r" returns (so he was afk) and we continue. I pull the 2 floating chicks and the group at the locked door, a pretty easy pull under most circumstances, we wipe. I start slow pulling and continue on past the first locked door and head down the hallway to the first boss, pulling 1 floating chick and 1 group, turn back to find that the other 3 weren't there... they were in the optional locked room, tanking and dpsing the mobs from that room without me. I asked them to stay with the tank to which I was met with a snarky "stay with the group". I responded with "last I checked, tank dictates the direction and pace. Screenshot taken incase you guys try and abuse the kick system." Was met with a bunch of vitriol and then the healer stopped healing me (they were from the same server so I assume they were with each other.) They eventually kicked me and I instaqued right back up and likely finished the dungeon before the other group. I did report them for kick system abuse and the GM seemed like he was going to bring the hammer down. Hope those a-holes got their accounts suspended for abusing kick system. Good times.

[Hash_Browns]

Haukke Manor, I'm tank. We load in and I start running forward to pull. Just as i'm beginning to pull 2 group, someone says that someone DC'd (they didn't), so I bring the pack back and 3 of us kill em. The "DC'r" returns (so he was afk) and we continue. I pull the 2 floating chicks and the group at the locked door, a pretty easy pull under most circumstances, we wipe. I start slow pulling and continue on past the first locked door and head down the hallway to the first boss, pulling 1 floating chick and 1 group, turn back to find that the other 3 weren't there... they were in the optional locked room, tanking and dpsing the mobs from that room without me. I asked them to stay with the tank to which I was met with a snarky "stay with the group". I responded with "last I checked, tank dictates the direction and pace. Screenshot taken incase you guys try and abuse the kick system." Was met with a bunch of vitriol and then the healer stopped healing me (they were from the same server so I assume they were with each other.) They eventually kicked me and I instaqued right back up and likely finished the dungeon before those dipshits with the new group. I did report them for kick system abuse and the GM seemed like he was going to bring the hammer down. Hope those assholes got their accounts suspended for abusing kick system. Good times.

Y'all had me going until you tried to completely control the party because "I'm the tank, so I make the rules."

Tanks ain't the boss, chief.

[HyoMinPark]

Haukke Manor, I'm tank. We load in and I start running forward to pull. Just as i'm beginning to pull 2 group, someone says that someone DC'd (they didn't), so I bring the pack back and 3 of us kill em. The "DC'r" returns (so he was afk) and we continue. I pull the 2 floating chicks and the group at the locked door, a pretty easy pull under most circumstances, we wipe. I start slow pulling and continue on past the first locked door and head down the hallway to the first boss, pulling 1 floating chick and 1 group, turn back to find that the other 3 weren't there... they were in the optional locked room, tanking and dpsing the mobs from that room without me. I asked them to stay with the tank to which I was met with a snarky "stay with the group". I responded with "last I checked, tank dictates the direction and pace. Screenshot taken incase you guys try and abuse the kick system." Was met with a bunch of vitriol and then the healer stopped healing me (they were from the same server so I assume they were with each other.) They eventually kicked me and I instaqued right back up and likely finished the dungeon before those dipshits with the new group. I did report them for kick system abuse and the GM seemed like he was going to bring the hammer down. Hope those assholes got their accounts suspended for abusing kick system. Good times.

The person dc-ing could have been momentarily lagging/pokeballing without actually being kicked out of the game. Seen it happen loads of times.

That said, can’t really blame them for kicking you. I would have kicked you for your attitude and attempted blackmail.

May also want to edit out the profanity—just like in game, it’s an easy way to get your forum account suspended.

[Aviconus]

The person dc-ing could have been momentarily lagging/pokeballing without actually being kicked out of the game. Seen it happen loads of times.

That said, can’t really blame them for kicking you. I would have kicked you for your attitude and attempted blackmail.

May also want to edit out the profanity—just like in game, it’s an easy way to get your forum account suspended.

1. I wasn't upset about the DC or anything, just more context.

2. Still not grounds for abusing kick system. GM agreed.

3. Done, good point.

[Aviconus]

Y'all had me going until you tried to completely control the party because "I'm the tank, so I make the rules."

Tanks ain't the boss, chief.

Last I checked, Tanks DO run the group. If they wanted to 100% clear the dungeon, they can roll a tank. I can play the waiting game just as much as them, but it still doesn't warrant them abusing the kick system and the GM agreed. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it law.

[Nanami_Naniwa]

Yeah, I'd kick you too. You were rude and threatening. And it is common sense to stay with the group and not sprint away. Even and especially as a tank.

[Aviconus]

Yeah, I'd kick you too. You were rude and threatening. And it is common sense to stay with the group and not sprint away. Even and especially as a tank.

I wasn't rude, nor threatening. You too would have abused the system and been reported. The system isn't there for people to kick just because they don't like what the other person says. I wasn't "AFK", I wasn't "Harrassing" anyone, I wasn't "Disconnected". Can't remember what the fourth option was, but I wasn't that either. Regardless of what you think, there are rules to the kick system, and if you use those options to kick people because you don't like them or their opinion, IT'S STILL ABUSING THE SYSTEM, and there's no argument against that.