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  1. #131
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    VenKitsune's Avatar
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    Ven Diclonius
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    Cerberus
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    I know this is like 99% chance this is just a troll....But seriously? They'll go down individually?

    Okay, let me use this opportunity to offer some tips to anyone that might be reading it, that might not otherwise be in the know.
    Since the removal of TP, aoe is as effective as its potency alone - This means that if your single target ability does 100 potency, and your aoe does 50 then aoe will be equally as effective against 2 targets, 50% more effective on 3, twice as effective on 4 targets and so on. Read your potencies, do a little napkin math.
    (9)
    2.0 Veteran from 2013. Just looking to be helpful. DRK is Love, DRK is life.

    (Ignore the levels on my character card, the tool i used to make it hasn't been updated for 4.0)

  2. #132
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    Mixt's Avatar
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    Mixt Bell
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    Lich
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    Paladin Lv 80
    So, if you really need that cooldown but don't have it because you already used it earlier, then what?

    "Oh crap tank gonna die! OGCD instant cast heal!... oh wait, they are on CD, blargh everyone is dead"

    "I'm low on HP, low enough that regular cooldowns won't save me from the incoming tankbuster, and the healer is tunnel vision DPSing, and i get yelled at every time i use Clemency to self-heal. Better use Hallowed Ground...oh wait, it's still got 2 minutes left on cooldown, BLAM, i'm dead, BLAM, the rest of the party is dead...and the healer is yelling at me for not invulning it..."

    Things like that happen a bit too often for comfort.


    And it should be noted that some big pulls have seriously nasty damage spikes, running headfirst into one of those is just asking to have the floor wiped with your face.
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  3. #133
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    Callinon's Avatar
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    Callinon Soulforge
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    Ultros
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mixt View Post
    So, if you really need that cooldown but don't have it because you already used it earlier, then what?

    "Oh crap tank gonna die! OGCD instant cast heal!... oh wait, they are on CD, blargh everyone is dead"
    Manage your cooldowns better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mixt View Post
    "I'm low on HP, low enough that regular cooldowns won't save me from the incoming tankbuster, and the healer is tunnel vision DPSing, and i get yelled at every time i use Clemency to self-heal. Better use Hallowed Ground...oh wait, it's still got 2 minutes left on cooldown, BLAM, i'm dead, BLAM, the rest of the party is dead...and the healer is yelling at me for not invulning it..."
    Use Clemency. Seriously, don't just ignore a tool in your kit because some people get their panties in a twist over its existence. If you have a tool that will let you not die, and you die without using it, that's your fault.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mixt View Post
    And it should be noted that some big pulls have seriously nasty damage spikes, running headfirst into one of those is just asking to have the floor wiped with your face.
    True, but then we come back to cooldown management. After you've run a dungeon a few times, you should know which pulls are going to require extra attention. The Twinning pull right before the second boss springs right to mind. Especially if it's done wall-to-wall. Lots of mobs, couple of them hit pretty hard. You want to save a good cooldown for that one. You should also interrupt the Berserk cast by the large mobs, because you can, and it'll help you not die.
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  4. #134
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    Jybril's Avatar
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    Junpei Iorii
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    Mostly because this game doesn't provide us with enough to do as healers. Fights are designed so that all damage is predictable and catered around making sure even the worst healer can pull through. A good healer who actually knows what they're doing will always end up with high amounts of down time where they have little more to do than spam DPS or pick their noses in boredom. Given the current scenario we face, is it any wonder healers want ACTUAL rotations when we have nothing to do otherwise? Keep in mind most of the healers in this game are pretty united in the desire for tougher fights that actually make us have to heal, but that's not what we've been given or are likely to get any time soon.
    Nope. They have no earthly idea what to do with healers. Guess we just chill and watch Netflix lol.

    At first I didn't mind the gutted stuff of SCH, but then I came back after 3.0 and played it
    and welp...It's the most fun healer of the three now, but man lol...I wish I could
    do more than Press 1 with the occasionally 2 on bosses, 3 for mobs too.
    I sure am glad to use Chain Stargamnanagama and ED sometimes too.


    Either give us the DPS tools back or make fights more engaging to heal.
    Copied factory has me healing a lot for now and it's really fun.
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  5. 11-07-2019 12:38 PM

  6. #135
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    Fynlar's Avatar
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    Fynlar Eira
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    "I'm low on HP, low enough that regular cooldowns won't save me from the incoming tankbuster, and the healer is tunnel vision DPSing, and i get yelled at every time i use Clemency to self-heal.
    I've never once been yelled at for using Clemency. Don't let the min maxers on the forum/fflogs/whatever trying to squeeze every single point of damage they can out of their PLD (as if anyone other than them cares about their precious tank dps) intimidate you from using it.
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  7. #136
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    Berteaux_Braumegain's Avatar
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    Berteaux Braumegain
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Worth noting that this exact post is on Reddit's Final Fantasy XIV shitpost board.
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  8. #137
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    Hash_Browns's Avatar
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    Hash Browns
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    I've never once been yelled at for using Clemency. Don't let the min maxers on the forum/fflogs/whatever trying to squeeze every single point of damage they can out of their PLD (as if anyone other than them cares about their precious tank dps) intimidate you from using it.
    Uhh, people who min/max know Clemency is a gain on DPS because it lets the White Mage deal more damage then you.
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  9. #138
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
    World
    Marilith
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Berteaux_Braumegain View Post
    Worth noting that this exact post is on Reddit's Final Fantasy XIV shitpost board.
    What about it? That's all people do on Reddit. They copy and paste posts they think are funny, or slightly alter posts, and repost them.
    (4)
    WHM | RDM | DNC

  10. #139
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    ChickenChan1043's Avatar
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    Chicken Chan
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    Ultros
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Not hard to tank multiple mobs at once without getting melted. Also not hard to heal them and still being able to DPS. Learn to play the classes properly and effectively.

    A lot of us jobs and lives so we don't want to waste 90 minutes in a dungeon for no good reason; when it only takes 20 minutes tops to finish when done right. Most of us have other things we want/need to do today.

    SE made all healers and tanks so easy to play, as if they weren't already easy before; in regular content.
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  11. #140
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    how is using the same single target spell less boring than using the same aoe spell when you also have more things to do at the same time?
    I explained that. Focusing on each target makes me feel more engaged than just tossing out Holy after Holy on some massive pack of mobs. I also feel more active because there's less time running after the tank like a kite. Small pulls have the team constantly pulling and melting, rinse and repeat.
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