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  1. #101
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    Edax's Avatar
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    Edax Royeaux
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    Leviathan
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by EtherRose View Post
    I see no point in 1 person owning a Mansion sized house over a FC with a large amount of people.
    You may not but I do. I'm very happy with my personal Mansion because I got to design it purely to my own personal taste. It is my proudest achievement in the game.
    I think it is fantastic that players aren't restricted to what size house they can own. To be honest I find FC Mansions overrated because most players who use them are stuck with someone else's design.
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  2. #102
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    Aviconus's Avatar
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    Sunociva Mircea
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    The system sucks. It would be largely resolved if you could choose the size of your house regardless of plot size. Limiting house sizes to a select few is not how it should be.
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  3. #103
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    Rilifane's Avatar
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    Esther Harper
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    Zodiark
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    You may not but I do. I'm very happy with my personal Mansion because I got to design it purely to my own personal taste. It is my proudest achievement in the game.
    I think it is fantastic that players aren't restricted to what size house they can own. To be honest I find FC Mansions overrated because most players who use them are stuck with someone else's design.
    I agree.
    You get stuck with another person's design and many FCs either stick to a rather genereic "meeting hall" design which doesn't feel inviting or make it a convoluted mess off ill-matched chocobo/ carbuncle/ tonberry things strewn all over the place.
    I'll have to wait and see how much our newly acquired FC mansion actually gets used after things settled down. Many FC members refrained from adding a chocobo stable or training dummy to their garden so they have a reason to visit the FC mansion more often. I think our FC would've been fine with a medium house. I don't think bigger houses should only go to FCs because they have more people. I'm happy to have people who are apt designers and enjoy the housing endgame have them.

    What they definitely SHOULD do is increase the item limit.
    I easily hit 200 in my small house and had to remove some things to keep everything within the limit. The basic design requires only few slots but as soon as you add details and personal touches, you tend to hit cap pretty fast.
    And now imagine having to decorate a mansion with only 400 slots...
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  4. #104
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    Alleo's Avatar
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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by SerLuke View Post
    Wait you want to add another housing system on top of the current system? Do you realize how much of a developmental/programming undertaking that is? Not to mention the additional use of resources?
    Yes. The current system wont need to be updated much and this would stop people being too angry because if they would go away with the old system not everyone will be happy. Unlike the wards the new housing instances also dont need to "exist" all the time, kinda just like retainers.

    It will take quite a bit of ressources but if they keep this system it will eat ressources too since they will need to update the wards that will always stay active and it will make even more consumers unhappy if more and more cant get houses while they continue to give us house items all the time.

    A game with a big cash shop (with quite the high prices especially for old event items) and with over 1 million active players should be able to afford it if they want to.
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  5. #105
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    Nedkel's Avatar
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    Chloe Lehideux
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    Zodiark
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    Samurai Lv 74
    What current system needs to implement is a tax each month to pay for a house so we could be sure it is used by people who bother about it.
    400k for small house, 700k for medium and 1 mln for big one and make it so you have to pay it by going to certain npc, if not paid in 7 days the house will go on sale.
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  6. #106
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    Maero's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 90
    No offence but we have enough things in game that is bs, we do not need taxes.
    Instanced housing would solve many problems with housing
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  7. #107
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    Alleo's Avatar
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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    What current system needs to implement is a tax each month to pay for a house so we could be sure it is used by people who bother about it.
    400k for small house, 700k for medium and 1 mln for big one and make it so you have to pay it by going to certain npc, if not paid in 7 days the house will go on sale.
    Yeah lets punish the people using houses instead of making a better system...
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  8. #108
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    EtherRose's Avatar
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    Ether Rose
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    Diabolos
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    You may not but I do. I'm very happy with my personal Mansion because I got to design it purely to my own personal taste. It is my proudest achievement in the game.
    I think it is fantastic that players aren't restricted to what size house they can own. To be honest I find FC Mansions overrated because most players who use them are stuck with someone else's design.
    You're reasoning is purely selfishness with no thought on an actual solution to the housing problem. I'm not saying you're a bad person or anything but your thoughts aren't articulated well. While i agree that yes, having your own mansion to design to your personal taste is a delight, wonderful and a great achievement but by basically saying "I don't like the designs of FC housing" is not a solution. I'm viewing this problem from a non-personal and logical standpoint which is why i said FC's should have the bigger houses OR add more various house designs/sizes. There simply isn't enough houses for FC's or everybody in general. They could also split up FC and personal housing. Well, if i put more thought into it - i think all the housing plots should be for personal housing only. Meaning that all small/medium and large plots are for personal only. They should make a new area for FC's and in this area you should be able to make "Outposts" or something that your FC would want to hang out at. I don't know, i'm just throwing ideas out there instead of trying to justify my own personal house. I just want enough housing for everybody. My FC is stuck with a medium house and they want a mansion. I can't do that because there isn't enough and everybody keeps buying them personally.
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  9. #109
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    Nepentha's Avatar
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    Isrun Whitewood
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    Brynhildr
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by EtherRose View Post
    I agree as well. Personally, housing should be different between personal and FC. To elaborate, what i mean is, there should be more sizes of housing. FC's should have the largest houses because it's an FC, lot's of players. Personal housing should only be small to medium houses. I see no point in 1 person owning a Mansion sized house over a FC with a large amount of people.
    I lived in a medium house in the Mists. Down the road from me in my ward, there is an FC house (a large). This FC is never on. When I click on the placard, the FC has 50 players in it. None of them are ever online when I peek. The yard has exactly one tree and a bench. Inside is barely decorated. There is no workshop. No one has purchased FC rooms. The house has sat there for months since I moved in. I assume someone logs in long enough to run through the house and prevent demolition.

    The two other large houses in that ward were sporadic, but still rarely seen. These are Free Companies, who have at least 25-50 listed members, who are rarely or never active.

    Meanwhile, I have purchased a large house. It is already fully decorated. I have two housemates, and all three of us are on and active daily and in and out of the house. We hold events there as we did in our old medium house.

    I regret nothing.
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  10. #110
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    Nix's Avatar
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    Fluffy Pancake
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    What current system needs to implement is a tax each month to pay for a house so we could be sure it is used by people who bother about it.
    400k for small house, 700k for medium and 1 mln for big one and make it so you have to pay it by going to certain npc, if not paid in 7 days the house will go on sale.
    We've already got a system in place that demolishes houses if they are unused -taxes will do nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by EtherRose View Post
    You're reasoning is purely selfishness with no thought on an actual solution to the housing problem. I'm not saying you're a bad person or anything but your thoughts aren't articulated well. While i agree that yes, having your own mansion to design to your personal taste is a delight, wonderful and a great achievement but by basically saying "I don't like the designs of FC housing" is not a solution. I'm viewing this problem from a non-personal and logical standpoint which is why i said FC's should have the bigger houses OR add more various house designs/sizes. There simply isn't enough houses for FC's or everybody in general. They could also split up FC and personal housing. Well, if i put more thought into it - i think all the housing plots should be for personal housing only. Meaning that all small/medium and large plots are for personal only. They should make a new area for FC's and in this area you should be able to make "Outposts" or something that your FC would want to hang out at. I don't know, i'm just throwing ideas out there instead of trying to justify my own personal house. I just want enough housing for everybody. My FC is stuck with a medium house and they want a mansion. I can't do that because there isn't enough and every/*body keeps buying them personally.
    Limiting larges to FCs won't fix the problem at hand - you're still going to get unused mansions, and you're still going to get both players and FCs without access to a home at all, even a small in the Goblet.

    Your FC has a home, you should be happy about that - on Hyperion, it's hard for both FCs and players to get homes, many do without. The only benefit to having a mansion over a medium is 1 more garden plot, that's it. You can count a little extra space if you want to, but really it's all vanity. The mansion has just as much functionality as the medium. From a logical standpoint, and I absolutely don't mean this as an attack, but really it just sounds that you and your FC are peeved that you don't have a mansion, not that you're upset with the system in general. If you had a mansion, would everything with the system suddenly become ok? Working as intended?

    We've already got outpost-type areas in the wards, they go unused. Market boards, retainer bells, all empty. Limiting homes to FCs only won't magically make sure these areas, or the wards themselves are being used - there are many, many FC homes out there that have little in the way of decoration, and even fewer people interacting with them. Adding bonuses to using the house is tricky because you'd want the incentive to be enticing enough to attract players to the wards, but not make it unfair on those who can't get a plot, FC or otherwise.
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    Last edited by Nix; 11-07-2019 at 12:42 AM.

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