Ongoing harassment in PvP FL

[Gallus]

Talk about blown out of proportion, take an L and git gud if you don't want to be emoted over. This isn't behavior being normalized, this IS the norm and has been since people been winning and losing.

If you lose you deserve to be insulted and shamed. Is that what I just read?

Let me clear this out, behaving like wild animals was never the norm in competition, people took the infamous internet + impunity mix and turned harassment into the norm, but insulting and shaming your opponent after beating them was never the norm in competition. I competed a lot in my childhood throughout many years in various sports, and never, ever did I come across anything remotely similar to the rain of insults and death threats I've been spotting in every PVP online platform.

The reason why a lot of people insult isn't because it's normal or acceptable but because they can get away with it.

[Guesswhat]

Adding my 2 dents here.

After 7000+ FL matches in 4 datacenters, I can't say I see a trend to "normalize" harassment. That's a rather extreme view. There is toxicity for sure, but it's usually rather tame. Everyone and their dog have been "victims" of emotes. In RL professionally competitions people may not behave like this normally, but amongst friends, and over the internet, it's always been like this. More or less.
I Have shuffleboard matches with my friends often, and we taunt each other like crazy.

I can't know for sure ofc, but I highly suspect that for some, the heat of competition is too much. The word harassment gets thrown around A LOT these days.

If you lose you deserve to be insulted and shamed. Is that what I just read?

Sure, that's the correct way of interpreting that line... -____-

[Gallus]

Adding my 2 dents here.

After 7000+ FL matches in 4 datacenters, I can't say I see a trend to "normalize" harassment. That's a rather extreme view. There is toxicity for sure, but it's usually rather tame. Everyone and their dog have been "victims" of emotes. In RL professionally competitions people may not behave like this normally, but amongst friends, and over the internet, it's always been like this. More or less.
I Have shuffleboard matches with my friends often, and we taunt each other like crazy.

I can't know for sure ofc, but I highly suspect that for some, the heat of competition is too much. The word harassment gets thrown around A LOT these days.



Sure, that's the correct way of interpreting that line... -____-

While TC's case happened in FL, I agree FL is more or less "harassment free" given its casual and lighthearted nature. However, things start getting nasty real quick the same moment you step onto the feast and start climbing. There is no "tame" toxicity, there's a horde of rabbit dogs with their binded ignore markers ready to spam them on top of your character if for whatever reason they happen to think you've been the reason for their last loss.

Do you know what was the heat of the competition when I competed skiing? Not losing my balance under high speed and ending up with my face buried into the snow.

Or when I used to play table tennis? Trying to keep my head cool even when the opponent had the upper hand or I had a bad day. Overcoming such obstacles without underperforming or losing my temper is what made me competitive.


But here in the online, for some twisted logic I yet have to manage to grasp, the "heat of the competition" is putting up with harassment and insults. And it doesn't end here, the flamers will go out their way and tell you that you should stop playing (or breathing, if they are angrier than usual) because you are not competitive. Ha! Don't you dare tell me I'm not competitive when you've been losing your shit from the very beginning, spamming the chat with macros, distracting our allies and disrupting the team as hard as you could because you couldn't handle the enemy team getting the first kill.

[Guesswhat]

But here in the online, for some twisted logic I yet have to manage to grasp, the "heat of the competition" is putting up with harassment and insults.

Hmmm, I dunno it sounds a bit much, but then again I haven't played that many feast matches, so I can't really know. Could you say they are trying to bully you to stop?

The phrase "heat of competition" was used as an umbrella term.

Good to know you can perform elsewhere without losing your cool.

Again, in RL, professional competition, this kind of behavior is rare. Casual, amongst friends, family and over the internet, it's common (talking taunting, and toxic behavior).

The reason it happens this much over the internet, I dunno, but I bet it has something to do with anonymity and antisocial behavior. Some people are genuine %#&holes though, ofc, we all encountered them. Don't let their bulling get to you.