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  1. #1
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    Crit's Avatar
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    Crit Ful
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    These changes are absolutely terrible.

    1. Potions having no semblance of animation or tangible existence feels dreadful, weaving in between burst against non-stop counter burst promotes a very team reliant and comp reliant environment for Feast as a whole.

    2. Healers have a lot less responsibility when it comes to how deaths happen, there is a massive increase in team reliance seeing as how each team member has to actively min-max the usage of pots and utility spacing with cooldowns and bolt.

    3. All the jobs being stripped of single target centric cooldowns or combos in favor for AoE was incredibly unnecessary and applies absolutely 0 emphasis on the goal of the meta which is AoE pressure, the existence of the melee's AoE combos is downright pointless and lazy filler that adds no form of enjoyment from flowing with your job's optimal mechanics.

    4. Healing as a whole is light years more torturous now then it was before, as stated above, reliance on teammates to properly use potions and bolt to save themselves or help you out is extremely unhealthy in any perspective known to man in Feast exclusively. Having the option of a tier 1 AoE heal for the base MP cost is unwelcomed seeing as it just makes you more vulnerable to single target, there is no compromise with the decision of gcds in proper play, its a decision of dealing with AoE pressure in a meta where damage is overblown to numbers beyond what a healer can do by itself.

    5. Tanks have lost their identity completely not only with how their job functions, but as the role entirely. CC being a lot more scarce is a factor alone that defeats the purpose of their existence, if blue dps wasn't a meme before, it sure is a goddamn reality now. The universal AoE all tanks share proves my point further, all copy paste, poor excuse of utility for what the role named tank should have, and general gameplay is in extremely poor taste in terms of flow and longevity throughout the match. There are specific skills that promote the use of an additional, Rampart. This is an amazingly gross addition seeing as how the point of an additional is to encourage choice and an ADDITION, these specific skills make it borderline mandatory for the extra effect, if other skills had similar treatment for varying additionals, this would be fine, but these skills only target one specific additional.

    6. All the ranged were changes to promote pressure above all else, this is a direct shift of goal between the meta completely, one which is not welcome in this map specifically, as for preference it is subjective and personally its disgusting, but do consider re-adding the other maps that would better suit this specific type of play that will assumingly be supported from now on.
    • These points correlate with Feast, they seem to be Frontlines focused as well, and as far as we know they could just be experimenting, but as of now this is all 10/10 terrible.
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    Last edited by Crit; 10-30-2019 at 12:02 PM.

  2. #2
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    BloodRubyXII's Avatar
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    Owa Owa
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    And you know what you'll get in return for this thread? You'll be swept under the rug and disowned like an abandoned teddy bear rotting at a child's grave. I'm still having more fun than I did in 5.0 (actually a lot of fun, but it doesn't mean this is good lol, it just happens to be new and better than what I had before, anything's an improvement on 5.0), but I felt a lot different about pvp after scrims than I did after my first training game, and mostly not for the better.


    Just so in a months time everyone's going to repeat the same stuff you just said and be upvoted en masse for it. Can't wait. That's why I'm just going to get all my feedback out the way in the first few days, take the hit for it then in a month or when the season starts and people just repeat things I said on day one (which almost always happens btw) - I'll just say concern froge and meme and take them as seriously as they took me and deliberately take an opposing opinion just to annoy them.
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    Last edited by BloodRubyXII; 10-30-2019 at 12:25 PM.
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    Saintly Gallowmere
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    Even tho i completely agree, i doubt that any mod/dev will see your post since they don't give a rats ass about NA/EU.
    We can only pray that JP share the same opinion since they gonna make changes on their feedback alone.

    LE: Was really looking forward to next feast season but with the current changes it'll be a complete mess.
    If they decide to go ahead and start a ranked season i hope that at the very least they gonna use 5.0 skills till they find a solution to this FL focused changes.

    Yes, AST is gonna be the only solid choice for healer but i'd rather have that than this mess of a balance we currently got.
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    Last edited by Saintly; 10-30-2019 at 02:09 PM.

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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    The "potions" should have been in 5.0. People need more responsibility for their own survival, and have for a long time. Healers have been too defining.
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    Was the author post ironic ? I thought it was, then now I'm seeing people answering seriously they agree with it.
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    Chloe Lehideux
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    I agree on tanks part.
    Imo overall pvp is a little better but dear god tanks are now a copy paste of each other, there is little to no difference between them now.
    5.0 was better in terms of playstyle diversity.
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    I agree with OP. I can't stand the new changes. Everything feels way too rushed. I said all night new FL makes me feel like i'm running around inside a schizophrenic's mind. It's way to busy/rushed and the skills aren't really any better then they were before. While some jobs im ok with (bard for the most part, and i hear nin is better?) others i can't stand. People are dieing way too easily whether thats because they nerfed healing pot, or people aren't using potions (i know i forgot i had it sometimes when i actually played a dps last night) i don't know. Ast feels like trash now. While i don't mind the abridged changes since they were like this a few patches ago, we had lightspeed to help. I'd kinda rather the lightspeed then the AOE heal. And DNC's aoe combo seems totally useless. DNC is a ranged job, that more then half the time has to play as a melee. But in doing so you just drop, instantly. Even with using curing waltz/potions/healers healing you. I think i used the aoe combo once last night because its just not worth it to go in and use it most times. I personally loved pvp, despite all the changes they've made in the past few years. This change however im having a hard time with liking.
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    They should replace these aoes for something spicy, because these are useless most of the times for real...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fannah View Post
    Was the author post ironic ? I thought it was, then now I'm seeing people answering seriously they agree with it.
    The Author is a Stormblood PvPer. He will do everything in his power to prevent PvP from becoming a skillbased Mode again. To achieve this he always uses the "new Players/its fairer/apparently more tactical" Excuses.
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