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    Rilifane's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    I never disagreed that Yoshi said they're OK if you don't talk about them, but they're still not legal to use. A lot of people want them to be legal, and don't want to see any pushback on their current level of legality. That's why they attack people who have opinions on parsers that could be interpreted as pushback.
    It's completely understandable that they get defensive.
    It's not even legal to admit that you're using one, even if you're not harassing others with it. So the ToS are already way more in favor of those against parsers then those for parsers. But more difficult content relies on having some sort of feedback of your own and the raid's performance while the game itself gives none except for "congrats, you wiped on enrage".
    Seeing how people don't even want that tiny bit of grey area parser using left sounds nitpicky and bitter.
    They are not fun for you and others who are of the same mind - not having any sort of feedback from the game is not fun for me and others who tackle more difficult content.
    Whose fun is more important?
    Right now I'd say SE found a good middle-ground with slight favor for those against them.
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    Father Gascoigne
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rilifane View Post
    It's completely understandable that they get defensive.
    It's not even legal to admit that you're using one, even if you're not harassing others with it. So the ToS are already way more in favor of those against parsers then those for parsers. But more difficult content relies on having some sort of feedback of your own and the raid's performance while the game itself gives none except for "congrats, you wiped on enrage".
    Seeing how people don't even want that tiny bit of grey area parser using left sounds nitpicky and bitter.
    They are not fun for you and others who are of the same mind - not having any sort of feedback from the game is not fun for me and others who tackle more difficult content.
    Whose fun is more important?
    Right now I'd say SE found a good middle-ground with slight favor for those against them.
    Like I said, I really have no issue with them being used in end-game content to help beat enrage timers. Most of the people against parsers are the ones who see them in leveling or MSQ content, and there parsers generally end up being used to beat up on new players. I think the disconnect is that the pro and anti parser people are generally talking about completely different content when giving their opinions of parsers.

    I think there's likely a better answer than the current setup, where they're illegal but only reactively punished.

    Either way, getting defensive and attacking people on forums who have a different take on parsers than you isn't helping anyone. If anything it just reinforces the idea that parsers are toxic, and breed toxic attitudes.
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