Good direction with SMN!

[Raikai]

Since the "pet system" in this game at this point is so busted to the point of not even resembling a proper pet system anymore... I'd rather if they converted the Egis into temporary summons like the demis, so the SMN could really pull back its classical FF feel... Hopefully in 6.0 they'll go for that?

Also a bit sidetopic but... I'm not a SMN player at the moment, and was trying to check on the changes of the xpac. Can someone elucidate why Physick survived the ability prune? I tested that and still heals for almost nothing... it really doesn't make much sense that they left it like that.

[dinnertime]

Can someone elucidate why Physick survived the ability prune? I tested that and still heals for almost nothing... it really doesn't make much sense that they left it like that.

It's also a mystery to us who actually play it. 5.0 SMN has a lot of questionable design choices.

[Siete]

Kill actual SMN and make it an Egi Trance gameplay wise class.

[Roda]

I like egis though.
And I don't particularly find tacking on endless, nearly identical demi phases every expansion to be all that interesting.

[Taranok]

I like egis though.
And I don't particularly find tacking on endless, nearly identical demi phases every expansion to be all that interesting.

Ideally you'd find a way to diversify the trances more in a way that fits the theme of whatever primal is out. Kind of like how DWT is just ruin spam, whereas FBT is a combo where you rock between 2 abilities.

Take that idea and just start running with it. Each trance can have its own mini-rotation, it just needs to be the actual focus of the class.

[Billythepancake]

It's also a mystery to us who actually play it. 5.0 SMN has a lot of questionable design choices.

As a SCH main, it frustrates me a bit. SMN got to keep physic, which is literally useless on them,but SCH couldn't keep anything from ACN? Really?

As for SMN changes themselves. Will have to try them when I get home.

[AbelArchaniEA]

As a SCH main, it frustrates me a bit. SMN got to keep physic, which is literally useless on them,but SCH couldn't keep anything from ACN? Really?

As for SMN changes themselves. Will have to try them when I get home.

Incorrect. They share energy drain, ruin 2, and bio as well

[Taranok]

Incorrect. They share energy drain, ruin 2, and bio as well

Incorrect. Scholar uses a unique scholar-only version of all of those spells.

[Jandor]

Incorrect. Scholar uses a unique scholar-only version of all of those spells.

Has done for multiple expansion now tbh, you only had to look at SMN physick doing no healing but SCH's ruin 2 doing decent damage to realize something was going on behind the scenes.

[Rambleon]

Ideally you'd find a way to diversify the trances more in a way that fits the theme of whatever primal is out. Kind of like how DWT is just ruin spam, whereas FBT is a combo where you rock between 2 abilities.

Take that idea and just start running with it. Each trance can have its own mini-rotation, it just needs to be the actual focus of the class.

I've been trying to visualize the traditional SMN of FF and it's rotation but was having difficulty. Mini-rotations really clicked with me though and I think that can really work well. The Phoenix's single to AOE combo was a step in the right direction. So, just a thought, Phoenix could later be upgraded to a 3 or 4 tier combo (not counting Enkindle), allowing it to stay out longer. Or maybe it would work where the summoned primal takes even more precedence, replacing a majority of your rotation temporarily. Almost as if you became the summon itself for a bit. Say, for example, for 30 seconds you are going through a 5 or 6 tier rotation AS Bahamut, sort-of. So instead of Bahamut changing back into an egi, it would change back into you, or at least give you back control of your normal hotbar.

Sort of joking, sort of not, I hope when they get rid of Egi's they give them to us as minions.