Good direction with SMN!

[Siete]

Now, next patch kill the Egi as permanent summons and give SMN a rotation based on summoning and using Egi attacks!

[Rongway]

This though.

I've been saying for years that SMN's attacks should poof mini primals into existence for one-off attacks, with the actual summoner being less involved in the attacks.

[Brightshadow]

I like this idea, it would make forgetting to summon the egis a thing of the past, and they could just put the auto attack power into their egi assaults, it would also open the door to new egis since the egi would be tied to the spell executed.

The only thing I would like if they take this approach is to make the egis a tad bigger 20%? And their egi assaults a bit flasher. Which shouldn't be such a big deal since they would only be in the field for their one attack and automatically be dismissed after.

[Archwizard]

This though.

I've been saying for years that SMN's attacks should poof mini primals into existence for one-off attacks, with the actual summoner being less involved in the attacks.

Sometimes I wonder how different it would be if they just replaced all Egis with Carbuncles full-time, and desynch'd Egi Assaults from your current summon.
Just 6 cooldowns with 2 charges apiece, 3 of each having shared CDs, each having different effects.
Give each a different Demi-Primal visual effect like Deathflare. 1 in each set for single-target (Shiva burst, Ifrit DoT), 1 in each set for AoE (Ramuh cleave, Garuda GTAoE), 1 in each set for utility (Levi shield, Titan stun).

Mechanically I don't see it being too different beyond hotbar space, and yet I also imagine the playerbase would complain less about SMN. Aside from those lore nuts, of course.

[Endariel]

Or at this point completely yeet Egis and remplace them by demi ifrit/garuda/titan

[Taranok]

Or at this point completely yeet Egis and remplace them by demi ifrit/garuda/titan

And make the class primarily built around going into trances and having the trances augment the rotation of the class depending on which demi is out. The trance design is actually very interesting if you imagine the possibilities introduced when they added FBT, even if FBT is a relatively simple change to the rotation, it is just the first foot in the door towards an amazing future.

The only thing really holding the devs back on such a future is the time it would take to implement it, which includes rewriting a significant section of lore centered around those awful pets.

[dinnertime]

They can keep Egi lore as it is but function as a lesser version of Demi if lore is really that important. Temporary summons you use during Demi summon downtime, no requirements to summon them like Bahamut or Phoenix. They share the same mechanics and buttons.

I really hope they blend both pets into a single interface because it personally bothers me how we need two separate buttons for Egi and Demi commands.
Still, they need to fix the annoying pet ghosting and very short distance limit between the caster and summon for temporary summons to move forward.

[Taranok]

They can keep Egi lore as it is but function as a lesser version of Demi if lore is really that important. Temporary summons you use during Demi summon downtime, no requirements to summon them like Bahamut or Phoenix. They share the same mechanics and buttons.

I really hope they blend both pets into a single interface because it personally bothers me how we need two separate buttons for Egi and Demi commands.
Still, they need to fix the annoying pet ghosting and very short distance limit between the caster and summon for temporary summons to move forward.

My idea was to just make the carbuncles and egis low-level trances that slowly replaced each other as you level up. So you start with Carbuncles as ARC, graduate from those to egis, from egis to demis of the same primals, and eventually to the powerful demis like Bahamut and Phoenix. In some future they could be further upgraded into Ultima or Alexander (assuming Ultima even is a primal), or Odin or Shinryu. Or if we're feeling fancy, the place that shall not be named.

Then mix in a splattering of oGCD and GCD abilities that partially summon these things and the class will feel a lot better.

[Aomine1992]

Or at this point completely yeet Egis and remplace them by demi ifrit/garuda/titan

Agreed yet those egis it would be easier for SE to deal with the Demi temporary summons then it is with a permanent blob of essence lol after they delete the egis then SE can make a pet dedicated job but honestly SMN ain’t it lol

[Siete]

The lore wouldn't change that much if the Egis we obtain become CDs and we have to rotate between them