Well, they actually did it, the absolute madmen

[Pehrah]

I would not call it elitist, selfish yes. there are elitist comments but most are more about getting the most out of your time. if someone doesn't play the class overly well dungeons take longer or wipes happen. Its a matter of if you feel like your wasting your time. that varies person to person.

[Callinon]

I would not call it elitist, selfish yes. there are elitist comments but most are more about getting the most out of your time. if someone doesn't play the class overly well dungeons take longer or wipes happen. Its a matter of if you feel like your wasting your time. that varies person to person.

Bad players exist in dungeons right now. Clearly they didn't need an easy mode option on single-player instances in order to "bad" up the DF queues. Hell we have a never-ending thread on the matter on these very forums and have for years.

So since there's no danger of difficulty options in single-player gameplay CREATING bad players. I don't personally care if someone wants to use them to help them through difficult MSQ fights. Enjoy the story, that's what it's there for.

[Pehrah]

People actually complaining about it are trolls honestly. the point of my post was to say that just because someone was complaining about bad players doesn't instantly make them elitist.

[DinahDemiurge]

Square Enix should empower players to get better rather than enable their incompetence. Bad move but I am not surprised.

[fumofu]

I love how we as gamers seem to regress from the early days of Super Mario to today. Its hilarious.
I dont personally care how hard single player content is, but they also keep making dungeons and other multiplayer content easier and easier every patch. No good game design goes BACKWARDS in difficulty from beginning to end. FFXIV keeps doing this. With this new patch, there is ONE single fight for people who dont want faceroll content. ONE. Thats the absolute bare minimum of what you can do to cater to people who LIKE to press 1,2 and 3 in the right order. Everything else is purely catering to supercasuals, popotos and people who play tapper games on mobile phones as the peak of their ability. Its a disappointment.

What a dramatic post full of lies and insults. This game getting easier you say? Let's see.

1.Most of Jobs and classes getting more and more complex each expac. Do you remember 2.0 SMN? PLD? DRG? How simple were their rotations and how devs added more and more complexity to them over the years, have you forgotten that?

2.Raid tiers? Remember how each tier of cob were increasingly more difficult? Addition of savage? Remember further progression of alex? Heck, they even started adding ultimate raids since 4.1. Have you forgotten that?

Also, did you read any interview with Yoshi-P? If so, then you should be aware of fact that this is theme park mmo, giving a bit of everything for everyone. And the fact they are providing us with content we are getting, means there's demand for it. And your post, insulting everyone who enjoys easier activities in this game, is just disgusting and disappointing. As if there can be absolutely no compromise. And your attitude is simply an exact definition of Toxic.

[Deusteele]

Thought about doing a long post about this, but nah. I really can't believe how useful this quote is in general.

Still saying it; What many want are hard set bars that block others from that content. You wish to be the guardians that control how others play the game. You'll dissemble all your motivations to reach a satisfactory self delusion, but the truth still remains.

Get over yourselves.

[TaleraRistain]

Oh ffs people, the game already lets you do this when you die enough times. This is just making it so you can choose that easiest option the first time you fail. And it means you don't have to click off Echo on successive tries if you don't want it. So it's giving options to both types of players. It's not going to change the skill level because YOU CAN ALREADY DO THIS.

[AngelCheese77]

Its called having an opinion, not being an elitist. Besides, all we're trying to do is help point out the negative consequences adding a sudden easy mode into certain content can have on this video game overall.

FF14 is casual enough as it is, but randomly adding easy mode to content which only has so much of a challenge to it as it is just helps further lower the bar for the average player's level of gameplay.

Tutorials, hints and etc would be a better option than a sudden easy and easier mode just to get past content you personally don't like.

Like I said, none of us are trying to attack anybody, we just want to state our opinions and help the game become better. Because adding random "quick win" scenarios in a game just defeats the purpose of playing a game in the first place.

In order for there to be things like tutorials etc, the beginning game needs to be rewritten better. No pop up windows that are closed without being looked at. No Smith that is "optional". Total forced to go through it.

But that means nothing. Players will still ignore it, skip through it, not pay attention and just do it to get through it. Unless there is a quiz afterwards that if you fail your character gets deleted.

As for the "it will bleed into the rest fo the game" eh. Like I stated somewhere else ... MMOs are ever in changing because THEY are more focused on the almighty dollar. It might annoy some of their players, but if they make it so they get 100 new subs, oh well. Adapt and change, or stay in the past I guess.

Besides, players were (and still are) terrible in so many ways, and this patch hasn't even been put out yet.

[Maeka]

There were a couple duties in Stormblood that were rather tight on DPS races if you're a tank or a healer.

I remember having to try that one involving Y'shtola (I think that was the one?) twice because I fell just shy on the DPS race as a barely-geared WHM at the time.

Some of those solo duties are long and take freaking forever to clear, and I imagine that someone who is getting frustrated with having to replay the entirety of a 10 minute solo duty just to get back to that last DPS race at the very end. So, I could see this option as being a "I already saw this, and I got to 3% left on the thing I just wanna get through this without taking 10 minutes to replay that whole thing all over again!" type button.

Also, people doing alts might want the button because they've already seen these duties and aren't really interested in a challenge, they just wanna mow it down.

Arguably, though, I would instead think that an unsync'd option would be better.

[RyuSaarva]

What a dramatic post full of lies and insults. This game getting easier you say? Let's see.

1.Most of Jobs and classes getting more and more complex each expac. Do you remember 2.0 SMN? PLD? DRG? How simple were their rotations and how devs added more and more complexity to them over the years, have you forgotten that?

2.Raid tiers? Remember how each tier of cob were increasingly more difficult? Addition of savage? Remember further progression of alex? Heck, they even started adding ultimate raids since 4.1. Have you forgotten that?

Also, did you read any interview with Yoshi-P? If so, then you should be aware of fact that this is theme park mmo, giving a bit of everything for everyone. And the fact they are providing us with content we are getting, means there's demand for it. And your post, insulting everyone who enjoys easier activities in this game, is just disgusting and disappointing. As if there can be absolutely no compromise. And your attitude is simply an exact definition of Toxic.

yes rotations are more complex in shadowbringers than in realm reborn but heavensward and stormblood were harder, game also used to have more positionals,tp,accuracy,enmity and more dangerous normal enemies.