Well, they actually did it, the absolute madmen

[Vahlnir]

Cass that is really hurtful to me, not everyone with a disability is the same, some are affected but it in different ways, I have a learning disability and I learn slower but I still try my best.

I think that you need to look at this from both sides, really. Some people have disabilities. That is a fact. However, it is usually different depending on the individual, both by severity and type. So yeah, I don't think that one person is going to be the same as another about 99% of the time. I sympathize with those who have some sort of disability and am very understanding. You also have to realize that other players want there to be some semblance of a challenge in this game. To them, SE is basically giving players an "I win" button to go through pieces of solo story content because the game is, for the most part, not very hard to begin with for probably most people. But I also realize that difficulty is relative to the individual. At the end of the day, this feature will have its pros and cons.

[Gula]

I think that you need to look at this from both sides, really. Some people have disabilities. That is a fact. However, it is usually different depending on the individual, both by severity and type. So yeah, I don't think that one person is going to be the same as another about 95% of the time. I sympathize with those who have some sort of disability and am very understanding. You also have to realize that other players want there to be some semblance of a challenge in this game. To them, SE is basically giving players an "I win" button to go through pieces of solo story content because the game is, for the most part, not very hard to begin with for probably most people. But I also realize that difficulty is relative to the individual. At the end of the day, this feature will have its pros and cons.

He needs to think of it like a college class. Just because a few students have disabilities doesn't mean the entire class should have their curriculum changed for them. By college, you're expected to be able to follow along and if things are too fast in class, there's tutorials on the side to assist. This same comparison can apply.

[Fynlar]

The sheer level of butthurt regarding this change has me wondering just how many people even know that the game already made it very easy to get 100% echo in all of these solo fights already. Aside from the "puzzle" fights where you have to perform a very specific action to win (usually within a time limit) that echo won't necessarily help with figuring out, all of them can be strongarmed eventually with enough retries. After like 5 retries or so you'll have 100% echo, no different than what is being offered here as a selection.

This change isn't doing anything but streamlining the process, while also making it easier for people who don't want a "pity mode" to decline said pity mode.

[Eli85]

To begin, I fully agree with the OP and others. This change could have a disastrous effect on those who pug group content at end game. There's too many awful players as it is, and this will only make it worse. But don't fight this change, really don't. This was made for one reason: money. I don't think S-E has said it, but countless other MMO developers have said something to the effect of, "When most players hit a wall, they give up and play something else." I'd be willing to bet my house that S-E's internal metrics and analytics told them the exact same thing. So this is what we get. It will likely get worse too.

[Gula]

To begin, I fully agree with the OP and others. This change could have a disastrous effect on those who pug group content at end game. There's too many awful players as it is, and this will only make it worse. But don't fight this change, really don't. This was made for one reason: money. I don't think S-E has said it, but countless other MMO developers have said something to the effect of, "When most players hit a wall, they give up and play something else." I'd be willing to bet my house that S-E's internal metrics and analytics told them the exact same thing. So this is what we get. It will likely get worse too.

Gacha Fantasy XIV 2022
Please look forward to it

[Blokeymon]

As someone that has often needed to repeat solo battles, I got through most of the battles in the game before Shadowbringers by having Titan tank for me on SMN so that I didn't need to constantly dodge so I could focus on doing the dps needed to meet the dps check. I couldn't do this in Shadowbringers, but went RDM instead for the heal.

The difficulty for me comes from three inter-related aspects :

DPS check timed requirements
Dodging aoe zones/finding a safe space to stand
Doing a complex rotation

I find trust dungeons to be very difficult and nearly impossible to complete because it is super easy to get hit once or twice and die (or the healer gets hit and its a wipe)

I also never even attempt anything extreme or savage. Hell even Eden Normal is only something I did enough to get the weapon once. I still die every time, multiple times, to Titan because the movement requirements are so very exacting and tough to pull off when one is keyboard turning due to a medical disability.

I like the game for collecting things. Mounts, achievements, etc. I know I'm not very skilled at it so I can relate more to those who have the difficulty that those who this change will help than all those complaining about "deadweight".

See, this is what I was looking for - a well-explained rundown of difficulties people face.

I knkw SMN isn't an easy job to play too - it's my only Caster job that I like! It can indeed be a bugger to play.

The keyboard thing - have you tried changing from standard to legacy (or the other way around)? I play console so maybe that's a bit easier, but when I pull the stick back, I turn and run away, rather than walking backwards. Could be a thing?

Regardless, I'd like to thank you for this. While I don't agree so much with this option being added, I do know some people genuinely suffer, and to have it explained in a way that doesn't come across as whiny and entitled is refreshing.

You have yourself a great weekend now, y'hear?

[Kleeya]

So many answers, and i still didn't understand how spamming 1-1-1 like a retard thanks to the 1-button-combo thingy in the Thancred ShB solo instanced quest is supposed to give these legendary ice only black mages, or these players who single target into a pack of mobs, the divine revelation of what a correct rotation is XD

It will not change anything imo, you are overestimating what these solo dutys can teach people. That's just another thing to add to http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...al-Fantasy-XIV

[Maero]

No issues here either as i stated in another thread i have friends that are older and have struggled with the solo instances that are needed for MSQ.
Why a "Very Easy Mode" though? lol Easy mode to me should be enough, no biggie however.

It's not like we will suddenly have a new influx of bad players because of this...
If people will blame this you may as well call out and say skip potions and even Palace of the dead could be to blamed for players not knowing how to play their jobs as well then

[SerLuke]

Gula please forgive me for strawmaning you, I was reading someone else’s comments into yours and that was not fair to you.

[Blokeymon]

It's not like we will suddenly have a new influx of bad players because of this...
If people will blame this you may as well call out and say skip potions and even Palace of the dead could be to blamed for players not knowing how to play their jobs as well then

You mean like that person who levelled up a WHM using PotD and HoH, and then decided to heal for us when we did an Expert Roulette, only to discover they had no idea what to do during Ghymlyt Dark, causing four wipes and an eventual abandon before the second boss, because they had to do more than toss out a Regen and the occasional Assize?

There's a reason that was so specific, by the way. See if you can guess.