Square Enix, please think about both Casual AND Hardcore crafters..

[KageTokage]

Unless they seriously nerfed how much quality/progress scale with control/craftsmanship I'm having doubts that crafting is going to be harder then it was before in any capacity.

They didn't even touch Delicate Synthesis and we now have more CP to work with due to Steady Hand no longer being a thing and most skills having 100% success.

The only thing that did get indirectly nerfed is Reuse fishing likely no longer being practical due to Reclaim getting the axe.

[NanaWiloh]

Unless they seriously nerfed how much quality/progress scale with control/craftsmanship I'm having doubts that crafting is going to be harder then it was before in any capacity.

They didn't even touch Delicate Synthesis and we now have more CP to work with due to Steady Hand no longer being a thing and most skills having 100% success.

The only thing that did get indirectly nerfed is Reuse fishing likely no longer being practical due to Reclaim getting the axe.

They removed stroke of genius in return so catch 22..

[CookiesNCreams]

Honestly, when does the dumbing down of mechanics stop? Eventually it’ll reach a point where there’s a “HQ Craft” button built into the game...and it sucks that I’m not even being sarcastic. It could legit happen at this point.

They absolutely ruined one of the only things that made FFXIV so unique. Really sad direction this game is going in.

[Quenadarious]

Honestly, when does the dumbing down of mechanics stop? Eventually it’ll reach a point where there’s a “HQ Craft” button built into the game...and it sucks that I’m not even being sarcastic. It could legit happen at this point.

They absolutely ruined one of the only things that made FFXIV so unique. Really sad direction this game is going in.

At this point I am just waiting for them to implement two buttons. "CRAFT HQ" & "CRAFT NQ" and just put control and craftsmanship requirements on pushing the buttons because that's essentially how casual crafting has just become.

Yeah, I agree.

[FirstnameLastname]

... there are "hardcore crafters"? What?

[CookiesNCreams]

... there are "hardcore crafters"? What?

I think I spotted a troll, coincidentally pops up right after the patch notes lol

[KageTokage]

... there are "hardcore crafters"? What?

I'd classify that as anyone who bothers to fully meld their gear and spends a significant part of their daily routine crafting stuff manually (That is, without using bots to AFK their way through it) to sell on the MB.

They're lamentably becoming a rarer sight as time goes on.

[ForteNightshade]

I will say, the buff to 100% on some abilities isn't that big a deal since you'll never touch most of them without Steady Hand active away. Others though... it just feels like even more child's play.

[FirstnameLastname]

I think I spotted a troll, coincidentally pops up right after the patch notes lol

Soo disagreement with you / curiosity in that regard equals being a troll? Dang man, you really baited me into typing this post.

[Liam_Harper]

Well, I'll wait and see until the patch launches incase I missed some small detail, like Great Strides changes affecting things a lot or an increase to required progress/quality ...but jeez it doesn't look good so far.

I don't see why they talked about reducing macro reliance when it couldn't be a macro-friendlier format. Low step 100% rotations with all the old problem abilities still untouched. I wonder if we'll see the first 1 button 1-100% endgame gear macros. Reflect on non-specialist. That Muscle Memory. Name of the Elements of all things mega-nerfed.

At least Reuse is now just a bonus like it should be and Trained Instinct is actually useful. I won't complain about no-fail Quick Synth either.

We'll see anyway.

... there are "hardcore crafters"? What?

There are, yes. Some of us rather enjoy it. It was the main reason I moved to this game myself.