MSQ Roulette Cutscene Skip

[Loyalheart]

Unless I am misunderstanding the question; I am pretty sure there is an option to skip scenario cutscenes you have seen already.

[Luzifusy]

you do misunderstand it. you cant skip the cutscenes in msq roulette, even if u have seen them already and activated "skip scenario cutscenes you have seen already"

[kidalutz]

Then they should have dealt with that. Act on people getting reported for that, not punish everyone else, including new people who don't mind skipping anyway.

It's not your choice to make. it was Squares and to make up for it they gave a huge amount of reward for doing it so if you dont want to deal witht he cutscenes just stop doing it how difficult is that to get? Nobody forces you to click MSQ roulette thus the argument that its a punishment is invalid. freedom of choice ignore the reward and ignore the roulette voila no more unskippable cut scenes.

[Cranky_Pantaloons]

I wanted to put a bit of new player perspective to this as I just finished the ARR MSQ last night ...for the 1st time ever. Frankly, I think SE did the right thing here by forcing non-skippable cut-scenes in MSQ content because I'm 100% certain I would not have been able to see it or I would've been kicked. The 2nd tank and maybe half of the party were clearly veterans and would have skipped the scenes and left the rest of us in the dust - as it was, they kept running ahead of everyone starting boss fights and triggering cut-scenes long before many of us even reached the area because we were left picking up straggler trash that they ran right past. Thank goodness for the prompt to teleport to closed areas, otherwise I would have missed most of the fights. It was NOT fun ...not because of the difficulty, but because of these jack rabbits, I literally had no idea what was happening most of the time.

So, yeah, veterans (who want to skip MSQ cut-scenes) ...bite me. Like someone else said, you don't *have* to do that content, it's your *choice*. There are still new players in this game.

[Iscah]

I'm not complaining about being forced to watch cutscenes (as I agree with you).

What I don't like dealing with are the toxic people that are trying to get the group to do an exploit so they can skip the cutscenes.

If they're trying to force you to do it, report them for it. They're not only breaking the rules by doing it themselves, they're hassling you over it.

[FrejyaAthenes]

I've seen it before. Funny enough a friend of mine got DC'd in the Praetorium during Lahabrea's cutscene and when he came back decided "Eh, I'll go for it." We could hear Lahabrea's voice clips through the cutscene and by the time the cutscene was done Lahabrea was at 48%. Laughs were had.

[FrejyaAthenes]

I completely agree

SE should really adjust the MSQ instances so that if you try to do this skip, it just forces you to sit through all the cutscenes you have missed. That'd stop the exploit dead in it's tracks, as all disconnecting would do is slow down your progress through the instance.

And what if you DC not by choice but by your Internet dropping out, like my friend was? Should he have been punished for having a moment of unstable connection, as I'm sure we've all had?

Voting will not help it will just result in the original issue people harassing the person who did not agree to skip. It was not only the harassment that was the issue, people were defeating bosses before new players were even out of the CS. This was really the only logical solution. People need to understand that they queued up for MSQ roulette you knew what you were getting into when you opened your duty finder. If you dont like the wait then dont do it get your xp elsewhere. It's easy xp at the cost of your patience, my suggestion is to grab a snack or something and prepare for your downtime.

This seems like the most practical approach.

[Kolsykol]

I wanted to put a bit of new player perspective to this as I just finished the ARR MSQ last night ...for the 1st time ever. Frankly, I think SE did the right thing here by forcing non-skippable cut-scenes in MSQ content because I'm 100% certain I would not have been able to see it or I would've been kicked. The 2nd tank and maybe half of the party were clearly veterans and would have skipped the scenes and left the rest of us in the dust - as it was, they kept running ahead of everyone starting boss fights and triggering cut-scenes long before many of us even reached the area because we were left picking up straggler trash that they ran right past. Thank goodness for the prompt to teleport to closed areas, otherwise I would have missed most of the fights. It was NOT fun ...not because of the difficulty, but because of these jack rabbits, I literally had no idea what was happening most of the time.

So, yeah, veterans (who want to skip MSQ cut-scenes) ...bite me. Like someone else said, you don't *have* to do that content, it's your *choice*. There are still new players in this game.

They could just allow people to skip by voting at the start.
New players are extremely rare. I don't mind sitting through it if there actually are new players in my group but if they aren't then it's just a complete and annoying waste of my time.

And if people are so worried about bullying new players then they can just make it anonymous. So you can't see who vote for what.
Yeah, I don't '' have '' to do the content. But the rewards are crazy and it's part of my daily duty roulette. I think that it's a dumb excuse for a poorly implemented solution to a problem.
Yeah, it's not fun if you're a new player in the old system.
But guess what, it's not fun either when you've played the game for years and have to sit through the same cutscenes on a daily basis either.
And that's what you'll be doing 99.9% of the times that you do the roulette.

[Iscah]

They could just allow people to skip by voting at the start.
New players are extremely rare. I don't mind sitting through it if there actually are new players in my group but if they aren't then it's just a complete and annoying waste of my time.

And if people had just voluntarily waited on those "extremely rare" occasions when they needed to, they wouldn't be forced to wait all the time now.

Yes it's a rough solution to the problem. But the rewards are only there because of that inconvenience.

We had our chance with the high-reward small-chance-of-having-to-wait roulette, and people blew it.

On the specific suggestion of voting for it (which has been discussed many times before) it may not be possible in the programming, and people would still be able to identify the new player in an "anonymous" voting system.

[GojuSuzi]

They could just allow people to skip by voting at the start.
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And if people are so worried about bullying new players then they can just make it anonymous. So you can't see who vote for what.

To be honest, it's easy enough to see who the newbie is (only one level 50 when everyone else has multiples well past that point?). Much as I agree that it's hard to count it as optional when the rewards are so inflated, and it's aggravating sitting through it for the bajillionth time when there is no "newbie alert!" message so you know for a fact everyone has done it, there is no way to make a vote happen that won't risk the newbie being kicked for [insert made up reason here]. Or you get folk who queue up for a ten minute cutscene-less run, get voted into watching them all, and decide they don't have the time because they only planned on a quickie and they drop (or grief-DC), leaving the rest hanging on for a replacement, especially if they're a tank or healer, or it's offpeak times.

I'd say most folk would be ok with a vote-skip failing because there's a newbie. But that "gogogo" minority can be poisonous to someone who is still new enough that ARR MSQ is their story point: imagine if you went for your first run in a Full Party dungeon, and got kicked on the doorstep? Even if the false-kickers get punished, too late, that could push someone to give up entirely. As usual, the toxic few ruin things for everyone.