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  1. 10-17-2019 11:32 PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaticDodo View Post
    I don't really know what Square can do to end the problem in its entirety.
    The only thing SE could do to completely stop it is to make gil untradeable. Which obviously won't happen.

    As long as there are players who want easy instant gil, there will always be gil sellers. They will always find new ways to advertise to players no matter what SE try to do about it. WoW still has issues with gold sellers and bots despite over a decade of coming up with ways to deal with them. It's a never ending battle.

    It would be nice if reported gil sellers became auto-muted after you report them. It's a bit annoying to have to blacklist them afterwards. And it's also irritating that they take up slots in the blacklist. That's something SE could do to improve things a little for players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    The only thing SE could do to completely stop it is to make gil untradeable. Which obviously won't happen.
    One way might be to block a portion of the text in posts that have been reported, say 100 times. Ideally, with the aid of a human who can identify and set the system to simply disappear any text that contains the seller's URL for example, forcing them to disguise it, or even change their site's name. Eventually, with so many gill seller's key phrases blocked, they'd find it nearly impossible to get their message across.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaticDodo View Post
    I don't really know what Square can do to end the problem in its entirety. I will say that Ive personally noticed less sellers/bots overall, but the akdksfsh sdkfsdkf's will continue to rise up.
    They can take away the right to use special characters in chat for one. The bots have been using them for YEARS to get their messages across. Stop new characters from using ascii. Or take away the ability for everyone. Either works for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaticDodo View Post
    I don't really know what Square can do to end the problem in its entirety. I will say that Ive personally noticed less sellers/bots overall, but the akdksfsh sdkfsdkf's will continue to rise up.
    This is not rocket science. It is not a problem that only FFXIV has. They need to fix their back end so bot programs can't be run. Just like every other MMO did.

    But yes, the bans have reduced numbers. But it has not stopped it. That requires them fixing their game structure and takes longer, if they can be bothered to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaticDodo View Post
    I don't really know what Square can do to end the problem in its entirety. I will say that Ive personally noticed less sellers/bots overall, but the akdksfsh sdkfsdkf's will continue to rise up.
    I do: they can sell Gil on the Mog Station to undercut these people. I've considered buying Gil before and still do to this day. I just don't want to get scammed out my money. If Square offered this, I would gladly pay.
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by gsil6374 View Post
    I do: they can sell Gil on the Mog Station to undercut these people. I've considered buying Gil before and still do to this day. I just don't want to get scammed out my money. If Square offered this, I would gladly pay.
    Won't do any good. Bots would just make it cheaper. Happens in other MMOs where you can buy currency.

    Also, that's a hell of a way to inflate prices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gsil6374 View Post
    I do: they can sell Gil on the Mog Station to undercut these people. I've considered buying Gil before and still do to this day. I just don't want to get scammed out my money. If Square offered this, I would gladly pay.
    SE offers gil at (for example, I don't know what gil sells for) $1.50 per mil.

    Do gil sellers either:

    A) Quit
    or
    B) Sell it cheaper then SE, and still have customers

    Pretty sure SE selling gil wouldn't do anything to stop them.
    Personally speaking, I don't even care about gil sellers, the thing I care about is bots & the level 1 spammer bots.

    SE needs to have harsher restrictions in game to stop it, honestly.

    - Remove shout/yell chat from trial accounts
    - Allow for only 1 deletion of a character every 14 days (to lower the number of shout bots)
    - Harder team to manage the bots in game that are flying - Or even some type of system that detects accounts going out of bounds in duties (Seriously, how is this even a thing?)

    Here's a cool little trick:

    Invite 3 bots to your party, enter a duty, and just watch them. Bots will always accept a party invite.

    They go through the duty by flying through the ground, going to the first boss, killing it while in the air so the boss can't hurt them, repeat. The fact that SE has no type of detection for this type of stuff is baffling.
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