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    For some reason I always thought Alisae was older and I don't know why. Thanks.
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    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    For some reason I always thought Alisae was older and I don't know why. Thanks.
    Probably their personality.

    Even with character development, Alphinaud still maintains a bit of childish behavior while Alisaie try to stay mostly mature despite she starts showing her fangirl side behind the scenes when she talks about the WoL as we learned from the Red Mage trainer who also taught her Red Mage arts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    Probably their personality.

    Even with character development, Alphinaud still maintains a bit of childish behavior while Alisaie try to stay mostly mature despite she starts showing her fangirl side behind the scenes when she talks about the WoL as we learned from the Red Mage trainer who also taught her Red Mage arts.
    You must be joking.

    While Alphinaud was definitely a bit of a glory hound back in the 2.x days, he has always maintained a cool and collected demeanor.

    Alisae, on the other hand, has been temperamental since pretty much day one.

    Case and point: Alphinaud elects to try helping the Eorzeans directly, while Alisae leaves to explore the Binding Coils of Bahamut back in 2.0 because she can't stand their hypocrisy. Even after both finally become official operatives of the Scions in 3.4/5, Alisae retains a preference for field work (combat) as opposed to Alphinaud's strengths lying mostly in negotiation (a non-combat role).

    Younger siblings are more prone to acting out to get attention, and thus have a tendency to be impatient and temperamental. Alisae being the younger of the two makes plenty of sense (though I don't consider this a major or shocking revelation...).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    You must be joking.

    While Alphinaud was definitely a bit of a glory hound back in the 2.x days, he has always maintained a cool and collected demeanor.

    Alisae, on the other hand, has been temperamental since pretty much day one.

    Case and point: Alphinaud elects to try helping the Eorzeans directly, while Alisae leaves to explore the Binding Coils of Bahamut back in 2.0 because she can't stand their hypocrisy. Even after both finally become official operatives of the Scions in 3.4/5, Alisae retains a preference for field work (combat) as opposed to Alphinaud's strengths lying mostly in negotiation (a non-combat role).

    Younger siblings are more prone to acting out to get attention, and thus have a tendency to be impatient and temperamental. Alisae being the younger of the two makes plenty of sense (though I don't consider this a major or shocking revelation...).
    Yes personality wise they match the older and younger sibling standard of maturity being Alphinaud consider the most mature due to his calm behavior and Alisae the hot headed younger sibling, I am talking about a different kind of maturity being the view of the world type.

    While Alphinaud is more mature now by his view of the world, he still shows a bit of his younger more ignorant side once in a while though it is mostly done through the less important non-voice dialogue moments.

    Alisae, despite being brash during her early time in the storyline, had a better understanding on how the world worked compared to Alphinaud being she knew full well the nature of certain people will take advantage of the kind-hearted nature of others. Though it did drive her to not trust Alphinaud's method of uniting the City States through kind hearted actions alone, it was still a more mature view of what the world is which Alphinaud did learn the hard way by the end of 2.55. She still remain skeptical about people's action for certain but it is no longer as bad as it was before during her 2.X era moments.

    Alphinaud is the same as he has grown to learn that not everyone is good in nature and that kind hearted actions alone will not resolve issues and can lead to being used by those who wish to harm others. However, he still has that ignorant side of himself that returns once in a while such as when he would buy Katanas from merchants simply he believe their words alone.

    Old habits do tend to die hard after all.
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    Going to ask i play the version available in UK i'm guessing the japenese version is far ahead in terms of story so how far ahead is it? The version i play just had a chapter centered around Noel, Locke and Noctis, and Alphinaud was last event character atm.
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    JP is only four story chapters ahead, with Yda+Papalymo, Zack+Ignis, General Leo, and Ace+Machina being the characters getting focus in the future.

    They tend to introduce new villains in the story chapters as opposed through events (The Zilart siblings kinda came out of the blue that way), so I assume that when Zenos does decide to show up it'll probably be as a chapter boss. I'm curious to see how he'd be handled here because the world of Dissidia would be like a dream come true for him but he didn't actually get any story scenes in NT to shed any light on how he actually feels about the matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    JP is only four story chapters ahead, with Yda+Papalymo, Zack+Ignis, General Leo, and Ace+Machina being the characters getting focus in the future.

    They tend to introduce new villains in the story chapters as opposed through events (The Zilart siblings kinda came out of the blue that way), so I assume that when Zenos does decide to show up it'll probably be as a chapter boss. I'm curious to see how he'd be handled here because the world of Dissidia would be like a dream come true for him but he didn't actually get any story scenes in NT to shed any light on how he actually feels about the matter.
    Most likely at this point, I am assuming, that NT has given up adding new story chapters and just going with any new characters are just memory clones made from the memories of certain characters (in Zeno case it is from Y'shtola's memories).

    Story is certainly going all into Opera Omnia now but with the memory wipes from Materia and the summoning at any time period from both Gods (though Spiritus always summons characters from Post-Story Timeframe) it is difficult to tell what may go on in their heads or their reasons despite some maybe very direct and obvious like Zenos.

    Not to mention the big question of what happened between NT to Opera Omnia other than the obvious Materia won that war started at the end of NT.
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    ah cool i look up roughly what new features are coming for global, going to be interesting seeing how Chaos difficulty will go, hopefully my characters can do it :P

    As for story or potential developments the Yda+Papalymo one is probably going to tackle what happened at the end of HW and into SB, may see Yda(Lyse) give a letter to Papalymo.
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    Dissidia OO feels... an oddly better version of NT? At least as far as story and single-player gameplay is concerned. I'm only around chapter 10 but the Alphinaud event was interesting, I hope the twins get a lot more oportunities to shine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteArchmage View Post
    Dissidia OO feels... an oddly better version of NT? At least as far as story and single-player gameplay is concerned. I'm only around chapter 10 but the Alphinaud event was interesting, I hope the twins get a lot more oportunities to shine.
    Don't count on it.

    I haven't played it myself, but I do know that DFF:OO is a mobage, and those are designed to keep adding new characters to keep players interested. It's how those games make their money - by constantly introducing new (and often limited) characters, they're able to tempt players into spending money on the gacha. Alphinaud and Alisae might be good and useful and getting story focus now, but give it a few months... they'll be outdated and need an upgrade quest to make them viable again, if they ever get even that, and they'll probably add new characters like Gunbreaker Thancred and Witch Y'shtola before the twins get story focus again.

    About the only mobage I still play is Azur Lane, and that's because it's pretty generous with its summon rates (~7% for SSRs, with focus units getting 2-5% rates depending on rarity) and summon materials (3 from daily quests; need 1-2 depending on build pool, as well as easily farmable coins); the only thing a patient player would really want to spend money on is costumes, which are hardly tempting enough to want to get one often. Cf. F/GO's piss-poor, static 0.7% SSR focus rate; and FEH, which has a 3% rate that climbs by 0.25% per 5 summons... but it takes 5 premium currency to start a summon session, and there's no guarantee that you'll even get a chance to shoot at the 5* (SSR) of your choice, plus you can end up getting screwed over by pity breaker SSRs.

    What are DFF:OO's summon rates and mechanics like?


    Ahem. Pardon my digression; I'm a bit batty these days after getting laid off from my job of 4 years due to... circumstances. Yes. DFF NT is a different beast, intended to be an arcade version of the original Dissidia... but from what I understand it's kind of clunky and the 3v3 makes it difficult to find matches online. (Haven't played it myself and don't really intend to.) The PvP focus means it's less focused on the story and single-player gameplay, yes. (The original arcade release didn't even have a story.)
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