Best Mrd weapon

[Zarvlad]

Double/Triple Slotted+ Barbarian is also good, depending on the stats you get on it

[Aratharn]

Double/Triple Slotted+ Barbarian is also good, depending on the stats you get on it

Only if you don't have Ifrit's.

[syntaxlies]

Double/Triple Slotted+ Barbarian is also good, depending on the stats you get on it

ifrits base stats are still far superior.

[Lienn]

ifrits base stats are still far superior.

Still, with 3 materias both barbie bardiche and demilune can beat ifrit and moogle in performance (depending of materias affixed, of course...i'm assuming the dude used the "right ones" for the purpose he would use ifrit or moogle axes).

[Isaaru]

Still, with 3 materias both barbie bardiche and demilune can beat ifrit and moogle in performance (depending of materias affixed, of course...i'm assuming the dude used the "right ones" for the purpose he would use ifrit or moogle axes).

Much higher base DMG and +30 atk > triple slotted str/atk

[Lienn]

Much higher base DMG and +30 atk > triple slotted str/atk

Well, no it's not. But it's like i said...it depends of the materia. 3 tier III materias really won't surpass it, but 3 tier IV does surpass it.

[Rexus]

Well, no it's not. But it's like i said...it depends of the materia. 3 tier III materias really won't surpass it, but 3 tier IV does surpass it.

How do you know this? As far as I can tell, 20 DMG from a weapon VASTLY outperforms 20 STR. From just messing around on lvl 50 Drubbers, a difference in 20 weapon DMG was like 20-30 points of damage. With STR though, 20 STR at most increased my damage variance by 3-5 points of damage.

Increases in damage are even more noticeable on Ifrit when you switch from Canopus Bill to Ifrits Axe. The effects of attributes suck, this is why naked Ifrit runs were/are possible >_>.

[Lienn]

How do you know this? As far as I can tell, 20 DMG from a weapon VASTLY outperforms 20 STR. From just messing around on lvl 50 Drubbers, a difference in 20 weapon DMG was like 20-30 points of damage. With STR though, 20 STR at most increased my damage variance by 3-5 points of damage.

Increases in damage are even more noticeable on Ifrit when you switch from Canopus Bill to Ifrits Axe. The effects of attributes suck, this is why naked Ifrit runs were/are possible >_>.

Well, canopus bill never really was a good weapon...even at 1.18, when it was added. And a weapon like barbie bardiche can be up to +97 atk bonus if triple slotted to counter the +20 damage and +30 attack of ifrit. Or +96 atk and +12 crit if triple slotting a demilune against the +30 damage and +30 attack of ifrit. (just used NQ numbers at both). Also, if not mistaken they being HQ would add around +10 damage to both barbie and demilune (if anyone can confirm the HQ damage bonus i appreciate...i'm keeping in mind the bonus from +2 weapons before 1.20 since they said the bonuses were even to +2 at patch notes...but never really checked it), mitigating even more the ifrit axe's main advantage.