Revelations from SHADOWBRINGERS

[Alleo]

The Ascian's appear to have little to no respect for the sundered beings. But are they looking to cause rejoinings for no other reason than to kill all sundered beings (Genocide)? Or is their motivation the restoration of lives ended by Hydaelyn during the Sundering, with the loss of sundered life being a consequence of that?

The problem is that their plan is the same as it was at their time. And before Hydealyn came up and split the souls everyone had a complete soul. So all his talk about us being not alive is bad anyway because they were ready to kill living beings with complete souls too.

In the end no matter what they decided to sacrifice, a bigger part of their surviving people were against it. You see it in the cave image and Hythlo also said it divided their race for the first time. Would that really count if it was only a handful ancients against it and the majority for it? And on top of that the Ascians were tempered to Zodiark.

About the extinction of the race part: Was this ever stated ingame that their race would cease to exist? Because as far as I can remember they just talked about leaving the planet in the hands of the new life. Of course this could hint that their race was at end but for me it may have simply been the argument that the death should stay death and that the new souls born after the calamity will decide on the fate of the planet now. I mean before the calamity the ancients were the only race living there and now after the calamity they for the first time might have had to live next to other races. Thus they might not believe to have the right to "rule" over them. I mean there was enough ancient ones left to divide the race and for one part to summon Hydealyn. Unlike the spoken races now they also got very old. I dont see a reason on why they would not be able to reproduce again and over time get the numbers up again.

Forgive me if I am misinterpreting you here, but it's not like the WoL is actively advocating genocide to restore their friends. For them, that 8th Calamity was/is a future that hasn't happened yet, and is thus something they would (rightly, I believe) want to avoid. Your statement would work better if it was directed to G'raha and the future Ironworks, who were the actual ones who made the choice to change events.

Yes it was not the WoLs decision it was the one from the future. And as we know their world seems to be beyond saving and it was not even the future Ironworks that did this. It was a lot of people still living there who had big respect for the WoL and decided that our life was worth theirs. In a way you could say that their sacrifice was similiar to the ones the ancient did. The ancients sacrificed themselves to give some of their people a chance at a future and the people 200 years in the future sacrificed theirs to give us and in turn many more people a future. (Its made quite clear that the black rose was too destructive to the world and even killed the soil) And we only knew about this bad future when we were already on the first thus change already started.