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    HyperiusUltima's Avatar
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    Eileen White
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiya View Post
    This whole thing might be a moot point by 5.3 though the ARR MSQ is getting a fixup job soon and likely Prae and Castrum will be scaled down to 4man or made Trust runs. This eliminates the MSQ issues entirely as a newbie can play solo and not miss the story. The MSQ roulette as well is a holdover as well and likely will get removes or rolled into the lvl cap roulette as 4 man dungeons anyways.
    Reducing it to 4-man would be feasible since Castrum really isn’t that long on 4-man minimum iLv. All it is is a few small trash pulls that don’t do a lot of damage. Same goes for Praetorium. It’s not that bad to do this and would also open it up to including other 4-man dungeons.
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
    Reducing it to 4-man would be feasible since Castrum really isn’t that long on 4-man minimum iLv. All it is is a few small trash pulls that don’t do a lot of damage. Same goes for Praetorium. It’s not that bad to do this and would also open it up to including other 4-man dungeons.
    I think mixing CM and Prae into other dungeon roultees would be a mistake.

    Because then you either have everyone skipping the cutscenes again, or you make them all unskippable and have two dungeons in the mix that are much longer than normal dungeons because of said cutscenes. They work fine as an isolated roulette now but generally things in the roulette should have comparable completion times.

    I think the best solution would be to work them into solo duties with npcs instead. With maybe a trial to cap it off for Ultima Weapon (fight 2) and Lahabrea at the end.
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    They work fine as an isolated roulette now but generally things in the roulette should have comparable completion times.
    I'd say that the most important thing is the time/reward ratio. If Prae and Castrum are put into another roulette, they can still have a higher Xp reward. Until recently, I thought that all duties in a roulette had the same reward...until Steps Of Faith gave me twice what other trials did before and after it.
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    Y: I usually compare FFXIV with a theme park, but the Forbidden Land of Eureka won’t be a place where everyone would want to go. For example, there are people who don’t want to go to horror houses because they don’t see the point in getting scared on purpose. For example, on a date, the boyfriend might want to invite the girlfriend to go the horror house, but the girlfriend just doesn’t seem to find it fun. In other words, it’s not like everyone wants to go to the horror house, but there are people who just love the adrenalin rush they get from it. Think of Eureka as something like that.

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    Elja Djt-dvre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    I'd say that the most important thing is the time/reward ratio. If Prae and Castrum are put into another roulette, they can still have a higher Xp reward. Until recently, I thought that all duties in a roulette had the same reward...until Steps Of Faith gave me twice what other trials did before and after it.
    Prae and Castrum as they are now have different rewards too. Prae is... HUGE (gives you 19kk on 79th level wich is more than 50% of exp you need for level up), to say the least, since it's a movie dungeon, and Castrum is near to average leveling roulette reward.
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