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    Quote Originally Posted by Disc_Hunter View Post
    Yet another incompetent retort. If the reward is specifically for "world's first" then duh, any idiot would agree that only the "world's first" deserves the reward.

    I'm talking about general accomplishments and achievements. For example, Ultimate raids, which live up to their name perfectly: they're ultimate. Clearing them will always be impressive (assuming clears aren't bought) because everyone who attempts them will always be armed with the same tools, due to sync-only requirements. Forced scarcity would be removing even the opportunity to attempt these fights. Therefore it's a flawed concept that is objectively wrong.
    That's false not everyone who clears ultimate have the same tools, everyone will ride the coattails of the people who made guides, spent hours editing a video, hours making videos, running it blind, then voice overs. Then the less dedicated and skilled players who dont know how to blind prog come behind and have everything handed to them, all they have to do is remember a string of events, which is not hard at all. Green light, yellow light, red light. That's all a raid is.

    Edit: lame ducks was harsh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistyregions View Post
    That's false not everyone who clears ultimate have the same tools, everyone will ride the coattails of the people who made guides, spent hours editing a video, hours making videos, running it blind, then voice overs. Then the less dedicated and skilled players who dont know how to blind prog come behind and have everything handed to them, all they have to do is remember a string of events, which is not hard at all. Green light, yellow light, red light. That's all a raid is.

    Edit: lame ducks was harsh.
    That's just an argument against how things work in PvP, because there are no guides, nothing gets easier over the time, someone more skilled than you could come in a month too late and not be even given the chance to earn the reward.

    At that point it's not that you were better than him, you just had more free time, you were awarded for being there within the short time period and not exclusively based on your skill. But you'd be okay with that because it gives you an ego boost, something to lord over him, that you had more free time than him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    That's just an argument against how things work in PvP, because there are no guides, nothing gets easier over the time, someone more skilled than you could come in a month too late and not be even given the chance to earn the reward.

    At that point it's not that you were better than him, you just had more free time, you were awarded for being there within the short time period and not exclusively based on your skill. But you'd be okay with that because it gives you an ego boost, something to lord over him, that you had more free time than him.
    More free time? Make time? For some reason this hobby seems to be excluded from the make time category. Into cosplay and you need to make it to a Con? Make time. Need to hit up a regional armature rocket club? Make time. Need to get in a track day that's only open 3 times a year? Make time.

    If you want it that badly in game you will make time, if you can't well tuff luck bud. I appreciate how any other hobby on planet earth wait for no one but this MMO, it better be hand crafted around people who have zero dedication.
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