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  1. #71
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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Limited Jobs are like a charity service. You have to be willing to help others with no profit in it for you other than the satisfaction of helping others. Yes, there are generous souls out there in the world that would run thru Shiva Ex a thousand times til you got Glass Dance but you can't honestly expect this to go over well when its required for at least a solid 1/3 of your toolkit in order to actually enjoy the job for the 1 bit of content that its designed for; You're asking a lot for very little pay out especially when its a one shot pay off.

    The time investment involved with skill acquisition coupled with the lackluster reward of the Masked Carnival are why BLU failed so horribly. I can't run content without going the extra mile of begging others to play with me in outdated content or playing the only content designed for me that I have already cleared out fully.
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  2. #72
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    Videra Svenay
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 83
    Quote Originally Posted by Savagelf View Post
    no comminuty need stop tried push change without give the jobs breath room to see end. you assumed you and folks on the forum respent the community I not sure you do.

    wow isn't the stone that every mmorpg should have every job to be like yet many of you want it to be
    Can someone translate this?
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  3. #73
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    WhiteArchmage's Avatar
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    Samniel Atkascha
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    Faerie
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Videra View Post
    Can someone translate this?
    "No, the community needs to stop trying to push change without giving jobs the breathing room to see their end. You assume that you and people on the forums represent the community but I'm not sure you do. Wow isn't the standard that every MMORPG should try to be like, yet many of you want it to be."

    For the record, I disagree with the concept of limited jobs in principle and am insanely bored with BLU, I would not want to see BST, PUP, or others given the same treatment for content that takes so much development resources and is dead in less than 3 weeks. I just figured I'd translate
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  4. #74
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    Brightshadow's Avatar
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    Lumen Stargazer
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    Diabolos
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Savagelf View Post
    no comminuty need stop tried push change without give the jobs breath room to see end. you assumed you and folks on the forum respent the community I not sure you do.

    wow isn't the stone that every mmorpg should have every job to be like yet many of you want it to be
    How much room to breath does the job need?

    It has been 10 months, and the only new thing that has been promised is a log that seems similar to wonderous tails.

    I hope the Blue Mage log will make BLU shine...

    but only time will tell.
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  5. #75
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    Savagelf's Avatar
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    Aribeth Lightbringer
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    give till the next Limit Jobs come out that we give it a grace period

    a expansion is the expansion and it patch cycle.

    my challenge to those against blue mage is to come up with suggest to improve the job we have now to make more solo friendly because if you look at summoner I don't think they change blue mage any time soon
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    Last edited by Savagelf; 10-05-2019 at 03:51 AM.

  6. #76
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    Videra Svenay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savagelf View Post
    give till the next Limit Jobs come out that we give it a grace period
    I don't think we should wait until 5.5 before being able to say that a piece of content is objective garbage.
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  7. #77
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    Infini Fiasco
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    Cactuar
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    Summoner Lv 70
    more like limit my sub time and play something else when there is nothing else to do.
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  8. #78
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    Savagelf's Avatar
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    Aribeth Lightbringer
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    because your impatient and what judge what has not be finish or has been buff or nerf you and you want it to be what you want blue mage to be the picture fit in to the trinity. well guess what it doesn't if how they dealt with summoner is any thing to go by they never change blue mage you stuck with it as is you make 100 thread demand them to change or get anger at me for like it as is and like limited jobs but the devs won't change it. in fact you tried rally the community since most people think the way my fc mate think that forum are full troll they won't care. through I seen them as place give helpful feed back but for people like me the dozen of people who whine and throw fit of had they don't like the job and want to be just as they picture it to be because it new it hasn't been done before it isn't like any of jobs that ffxiv has done before.
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  9. #79
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    Reynhart's Avatar
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Under the advanced job concept, where blue mage has a huge book of spells, and some of the spells are gilded (surrounded by a gold marker) to notate those are DF spells.
    That's roughly what I imagined with the concept of "limited" feature. The issue with BLU, be it its unpredicatability, and its balance. Two things that are only an issue in random group. So, thos gilded spells would indeed be the only ones you would have in PUG, and would probably be learned via job quests of through an easy-non-random process.

    But, if you build a premade, you check "unchain" or "limited" in the DF menu, and suddenly, you have access to everything. And you could do the same for every job, giving them more depth that won't be an issue since you have time to discuss the setup before going into duties.
    Quote Originally Posted by Videra View Post
    A very small minority of people, relative to how pretty much everyone hates this limited job bullshit.
    Since you don't have the actual numbers, that's an assumption based on a the vocal part of the playerbase, which is always a minority.
    Quote Originally Posted by Videra View Post
    The actual (incredibly small) amount of people who care about the class fantasy of BLU 'collecting' spells from monsters that couldn't be sated by class quests really shouldn't really have been listened to.
    Yes, they should, because at the end of an expansion, it's more interesting to offer something new to do, instead of another job to farm the things you already farm for months. You just have to realize that, right now, BLU is not a job, it's a content.
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    Y: I usually compare FFXIV with a theme park, but the Forbidden Land of Eureka won’t be a place where everyone would want to go. For example, there are people who don’t want to go to horror houses because they don’t see the point in getting scared on purpose. For example, on a date, the boyfriend might want to invite the girlfriend to go the horror house, but the girlfriend just doesn’t seem to find it fun. In other words, it’s not like everyone wants to go to the horror house, but there are people who just love the adrenalin rush they get from it. Think of Eureka as something like that.

  10. #80
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    Jybril's Avatar
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    Junpei Iorii
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Yes, they should, because at the end of an expansion, it's more interesting to offer something new to do, instead of another job to farm the things you already farm for months. You just have to realize that, right now, BLU is not a job, it's a content.
    Meanwhile, literally no one asked BLU to be this sort of content.
    They asked for it to be a job like any other like loads thought it would be.
    At least we could still continue to play BLU for the entirety of the game if it
    was a normal job. Not play for a few days to a week and never again until
    it's next update.
    Quote Originally Posted by Savagelf View Post
    because your impatient and what judge what has not be finish or has been buff or nerf you and you want it to be what you want blue mage to be the picture fit in to the trinity. well guess what it doesn't if how they dealt with summoner is any thing to go by they never change blue mage you stuck with it as is you make 100 thread demand them to change or get anger at me for like it as is and like limited jobs but the devs won't change it. in fact you tried rally the community since most people think the way my fc mate think that forum are full troll they won't care. through I seen them as place give helpful feed back but for people like me the dozen of people who whine and throw fit of had they don't like the job and want to be just as they picture it to be because it new it hasn't been done before it isn't like any of jobs that ffxiv has done before.
    This isn't want the player base wanted so no ones going to care.
    People have made posts on how to make BLU like a normal job and suggestions.
    BLU is a joke. Just because we don't agree with you doesn't mean we're trolls.
    Like dang, let people have an opinion on a job they wanted so badly that turned to crap.
    With that, I'm done replying to you since how you're acting.
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    Last edited by Jybril; 10-05-2019 at 06:08 AM. Reason: Added quote.

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