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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    There are mountains upon mountains of analytical data that proves this demonstrably false. More often than not, when an average player is presented with an obstacle they struggle with, they either a) hope others will carry them or b) give up entirely.

    Why do you think, outside of Savage and Ultimate, this game is ridiculously easy?
    The context for what Vahlnir said is alliance raid, which is not savage or ultimate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    The context for what Vahlnir said is alliance raid, which is not savage or ultimate.
    You really need to re-read what I wrote.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Can I see your mountains upon mountains of analytical data? Because what I've seen is people clearing harder bosses in 24 man raids when they need to.
    Google is your friend. Also, your experiences, however valid they may appear to be for you, are entirely meaningless in the larger discussion. Just because you have seen some people rise up (which, in itself is an incredibly small sample size) does not mean it's indicative of the player base as a whole. Case in point: why is every single piece of content (including 24-player raids) that is not Savage or Ultimate so ridiculously easy? Because the devs have analytics that tell them that players would rather be carried or give up than rise to the challenge. So many different developers over the years have confirmed this over and over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    You really need to re-read what I wrote.



    Google is your friend. Also, your experiences, however valid they may appear to be for you, are entirely meaningless in the larger discussion. Just because you have seen some people rise up (which, in itself is an incredibly small sample size) does not mean it's indicative of the player base as a whole. Case in point: why is every single piece of content (including 24-player raids) that is not Savage or Ultimate so ridiculously easy? Because the devs have analytics that tell them that players would rather be carried or give up than rise to the challenge. So many different developers over the years have confirmed this over and over.
    That isn't a mountain of analytical data. If you really have said proof you will have no problem showing me. Otherwise you're just pulling "facts" out of thin air. I know what I see. Is that "data"? No. But I'm not claiming that it is either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    That isn't a mountain of analytical data. If you really have said proof you will have no problem showing me. Otherwise you're just pulling "facts" out of thin air. I know what I see. Is that "data"? No. But I'm not claiming that it is either.
    Just because I won't do research for some random on the Internet doesn't mean my "facts" are pulled out of thin air.

    Try again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    You really need to re-read what I wrote.
    You claimed that anything not savage or ultimate is easy yet disagreed to the idea that people will rise up to meet the challenge of an alliance raid, which is not savage or ultimate and thus would be easy content in your opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    Just because I won't do research for some random on the Internet doesn't mean my "facts" are pulled out of thin air.

    Try again.
    But it does mean that we won't believe you.

    Also, Google is likely one of the worse ways to find reliable analytical data. How do you know that such data isn't itself only a cross-section of the player base? Outside of maybe parsing tools and surveys/polls, I can't see how such data would even be compiled in the first place. The only ones with the ability to monitor who fails a mechanic and then leaves a duty, without fail, is Square Enix. I highly doubt they are releasing that data, if they are even recording it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyrausagi View Post
    Oh, i'm sure they will but Drakengard 3 needs more loving.
    Drakengard 3 was both good and bad tbh lol.
    I really want every single characters outfits in this game lol.
    Zero looks much better than 2B imo.



    I demand a Mikhail minion!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    That isn't a mountain of analytical data. If you really have said proof you will have no problem showing me. Otherwise you're just pulling "facts" out of thin air. I know what I see. Is that "data"? No. But I'm not claiming that it is either.
    He's not worth arguing with.
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    I just hope we get the weapons for glamour by one way or another.
    And not just a katana if we ask enough.
    All weapons se please
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    I would LOVE Zero's outfit! Yoko Taro wrote 5 complex female characters, LIKE actually complex. Which is one of the main reason and then Mikhail as a minion or a mount! He has to sing that cute song when he's lying! (The game is 100% better in Japanese)
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