Ready for Nier Dark Apocalypse?

[linay]

From what I can see it doesn't look like there been much interest in actually integrating this into 14 and more just about appealing to Nier players and trying to push Nier.

Considering we haven't seen much of anything, this conclusion is invalid. In fact, given past stories, unless they made a big mistake with this, it should be integrated just as any story side quests in FFXIV because, again, it's a story that is happening in the world of FFXIV. You don't have to play Nier or care about it to enjoy a new addition to the story of FFXIV, as this will be.

[jameseoakes]

Considering we haven't seen much of anything, this conclusion is invalid. In fact, given past stories, unless they made a big mistake with this, it should be integrated just as any story side quests in FFXIV because, again, it's a story that is happening in the world of FFXIV. You don't have to play Nier or care about it to enjoy a new addition to the story of FFXIV, as this will be.

I maybe very wrong, but nothing about this looks like is meant to be integrated. It looks like there had been interest in integrating it in to 14 is just about shoehorning a very different game. Also given that a lot of the team making this have barely even played 14 I don't have a lot of faith.

[TaleraRistain]

I'm with you on this. I don't have an issue with crossovers in general, but everything else so far has been small-scale and self-contained. It takes the crossover element (Yokai, Rathalos, etc.) and creates a version of it that is part of the world of FFXIV.

I haven't played Yoko Taro's other games, but from what people have said here and from how he acts in interviews (unless his stage persona is very at-odds with his actual approach to things), I feel like this might be a case of him taking FFXIV and making it part of the world of his game.

Meanwhile, Banri Oda is quietly sobbing in a corner...


If he is trying to integrate FFXIV into his actual story rather than creating a disconnected "Eorzean version" of it, I'm very wary about what this will do to the lore, particularly as I understand that would put the story in the same reality as our Earth - and I really dislike that prospect. I'd much rather it stays in its own fantasy universe with its own laws-of-physics and cosmology.

Even if it's not officially connected, people are going to theorise that it is.

I'm not looking forward to this at all.

Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised. I hope so. But for now, I'm dreading it.

Also, it just feels wrong for a non-FF game to get such a starring role here, taking up an entire alliance raid (an ongoing core gameplay mode) rather than a temporary special event - it's a bigger feature than several actual Final Fantasy crossovers have had. What's so special about this one game to get this treatment? Or does it mean we'll have more crossovers like this in future, turning FFXIV from its own thing into a patchwork of bits from other stories? I realise that's what it's already doing with other FF games, but at least there are boundaries and a theme to doing that.

Completely agree with everything you said. The lore aspect in particular bothers me because it isn't like 24 man raids aren't important to the lore. We just had an entire expansion where a key element was what happened in the level 50 24 man raids.

[DumdogsWorld]

There's no way the raid is even canon, so I don't see why I would want to even do it from a storyline perspective. I also don't really invest in raids for the loot, so I'll pass.

[MaraD_]

There's no way the raid is even canon, so I don't see why I would want to even do it from a storyline perspective. I also don't really invest in raids for the loot, so I'll pass.

It is canon, and is in the shadowbringers story already.
the "spoiler" zone at the end, talks of the robots built, and is where this plot will be going.
its the same general idea.
the whole, end of a "spoiler", causing the left over robots.

this isnt the actual nier game lore, locations, and characters.
this is ffxiv lore, reskinned to look like nier.
you could use new names, and comepltely different robot designs, and its still canon.
the difference being the blatant nier skin for fan service.

[RoyalBeef]

Good thing I'm a cutscene skipper that doesn't care about lore or canon, so I can just look forward to a fun raid, glams and gear upgrades

[DynnDiablos]

Good thing I'm a cutscene skipper that doesn't care about lore or canon, so I can just look forward to a fun raid, glams and gear upgrades

And you play a STORY-based MMO because?

[RoyalBeef]

And you play a STORY-based MMO because?

Because I enjoy the gameplay. But couldn't care less who my character is and why they are doing what they're doing. They're killing stuff because I want loot and improve my skills as far as I'm concerned ^^

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Yes Please.
I always love new Content to play, and I love Collabs.
Plus new Glamour Peices are always fun, gives me something on the side to do as I wait for more FFXIV MSQ.