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    Nomuno's Avatar
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    Vul Kandosii
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    Sargatanas
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MPNZ View Post
    Which means that it's a total design fail like the bow-mage, and birthed ranger trolls. It's not unfun as not as satisfying or rewarding to play or manipulate and abuse various things. And, bewilderment as to current design changes overall with several feeling really out of touch

    FPS games are both notoriously toxic and elitist environments as they are super easy to play and improve (low skill floor = less difficulty) to higher skill levels and doing lots of amazing feats (high skill ceiling = heights of player ability within a given game). The "casual" being a particular strawman that you just like totally invoked. And, the current AST is simpler, requires a lot more to upkeep with a lot less time to do it, and has very little depth than the previous version, but is way easier to get to it's maximum potential, for example.

    Platformers like MMZ are notoriously hard and have a niche fanbases that rarely break into the Mainstream in comparison to the more casual friendly genres like FPS and block/stack puzzlers, and, like, a lot of ppl do play this game while watching netflix which is just totes impossible for me and I don't know how they do it


    Again what the heck are you talking about. Where is this toxic argument going? I'm confused, are you just trying to make a point that if this game gets harder that it will get toxic? and you are calling my argument strawman? Give me a break, ANY game can be toxic, and EVERY game has a toxic fanbase (size may vary). That itself is inevitable. You will always have people that get their rocks off on griefing or just whooping a players butt.

    Regardless, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
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    Nephie Elz
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomuno View Post
    Again what the heck are you talking about. Where is this toxic argument going? I'm confused, are you just trying to make a point that if this game gets harder that it will get toxic? and you are calling my argument strawman? Give me a break, ANY game can be toxic, and EVERY game has a toxic fanbase (size may vary). That is and of itself is inevitable. You will always have people that get their rocks off on griefing or just whooping a players butt.

    Regardless, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
    TLDR, FPS games are very casual friendly, but are considered "hardcore" despite being accessible to all skill levels and time constraints/schedules. It is thus a genre filled with casual players, and was like an example because "casual" is used as a strawman or like a scapegoat to form a mob-mentality behind instead of like recognizing and looking for a solution
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