do you think this Wall to Wall pulling (in roulettes)is hurting the healer population

[Shougun]

In terms of the whole run ahead, die, cry, blame the healer for not adjusting thing.. I think it's in part that we're no longer greatly over syncing content (unlike when you got that one level X dungeon for the 500th time that you were 300 ilvls over). On top of that it seems SE wanted to tune damage and hp up just a little bit, at the same time there is more hp to heal. So it's not as easy as we're used to (didn't even need all your ogcd heals most of the time) and it's a little bit harder than you might normally expect, not hard enough to mess with people who are really in tune with their job and play at high efficiency but enough that I think it had some effect (minor but on top of not greatly out ilvling may attribute to that squishy w2w feeling).

It's still totally do able to wall to wall pull but now if your tank isn't trying and never uses their cooldowns and goes to W2W or if you're not comfortable yourself yet with your job (or a mix of both) then troubles a brewin. Alternatively you get a healer that really knows their stuff and all their ogcd healing is top notch, and you're boring them out of their mind while they pound their one damage button trying to get peak dps off only three mobs wondering why it's not six yet. XD.

I think if you don't feel comfortable going big as a healer it's fine just to let the tank know, I imagine they'll listen, but ideally for speed we're all going big once possible :3. No shame and saying you're not ready yet, I did that when first figuring out SCH after leveling via SMN and only really being used to WHM/AST lol- "I've no idea how my job works but I'm not an imbecile I swear, just give me a few warm ups first XD" and the tank did (did leveling roulette and it put me into shb content as my first dungeon on scholar, thought that was funny but we were fine, no one died because of me and the tank was good which was quite helpful for learning).

[WalxAtNite]

So much this. I am healer (SCH) but have been levelling monk and red mage alongside. Have ditched White Mage now because the changes at HW SB and ShB were just too much to keep ontop of. SCH is a bit rubbish without the AoE damage now (unless you like spamming one button over n over) but still my fave healer of the three. There has never been much for healer to do in dungeons and now its even less work
As for wall to wall pulls - PLEASE DO! Give me some kind challenge XD

Yup. I'm at 65 now and a healer friend I met in game who runs with me sometimes gets SO frustrated with single pulls. So, so annoyed.

She has macros set up to beg tanks to pull more lol.

As BRD, I f***ing looooove big pulls. All those pretty numbers floating in the air. <3

[ParadoxHealer]

I agree, it is not the pulls. I leveled all three healers on one alt, and then started leveling them on my main. I have done this on multiple characters over time, and I have always been a healing main in every game. I am sick of healing now, and I am finding with all my alts even when I want a fast queue the thought of healing is just not worth it. Even WHM which is OP and has the most variety of new skills, I get bored. ESPECIALLY in the lower dungeons. It is unfortunate. Before, while I was an AST main, I liked switching between all three. Now, it is usually WHM, and then more often DPS or Tank.

[monk-dps]

I think it's abit of both honestly. I noticed alot of healers complaining about tanks pulling wall to wall and healers not being fun to play anymore. Keep in mind we have alot of new players in the game as well and they aren't as experienced as most of you saying otherwise. Alot of new players I came accross don't like wall to wall, I only dps so I don't care either way. I just press buttons.

[Jybril]

I'm with the others who said it's the fact that they simplified the healers.
It really ruined a good part of the expansion for me in all honesty.
It sucks because they did so well in story-telling and the dungeons are cool
but as a heals main, I can't be asked to heal much anymore.
AST is garbage and they catered to Savage players, and even they
aren't even happy with the changes, so who won here?

[Anienai]

They killed AST.

[ParadoxHealer]

AST is garbage and they catered to Savage players, and even they
aren't even happy with the changes, so who won here?

EXACTLY!


*also, I love the Miyazaki image at the bottom!

[RyuSaarva]

nah because I have seen more healers pull tanks towards more enemies with rescue than tanks complaining if healer asks for smaller pulls.

[einschwartz]

I am one among those who contribute to the lack of healers in roulette. Simply because:
1) AST is not fun to play anymore. While WHM is great, it's too simple and I miss the multitasking that I couldn't get as this job. Ain't gonna run as healer if I'm not having fun.

2) I'm leveling other dps to maybe find a new main.

Still run Trial/Raids as healer though because I need to cut down the waiting time.

[ForteNightshade]

I can only echo the same sentiment others have. The oversimplification of the healer's kit and how easy content has gone, thereby making that overpowered kit more or less meaningless is why we're seeing such a downward spike in the healer population. Speaking for myself, while I hate small pulls on any role, I especially hate it as a healer because it's so boring. Trash mobs and even most bosses simply don't do enough damage, which makes me a gimped DPS.

It certainly doesn't help their reason for not adding a fourth healer is looking to be more of an excuse than a legitimate reason. So that miffed feeling a LOT of healers had has only be amplified. I know tons of healers who jumped over to Dancer.