do you think this Wall to Wall pulling (in roulettes)is hurting the healer population

[Jybril]

I'm with the others who said it's the fact that they simplified the healers.
It really ruined a good part of the expansion for me in all honesty.
It sucks because they did so well in story-telling and the dungeons are cool
but as a heals main, I can't be asked to heal much anymore.
AST is garbage and they catered to Savage players, and even they
aren't even happy with the changes, so who won here?

[ParadoxHealer]

AST is garbage and they catered to Savage players, and even they
aren't even happy with the changes, so who won here?

EXACTLY!


*also, I love the Miyazaki image at the bottom!

[Hash_Browns]

AST is garbage and they catered to Savage players, and even they
aren't even happy with the changes, so who won here?

Savage players didn't:
- ask for seals
- ask for playing a card to be a 2-step process
- ask for sleeve draw to be ruined
- ask for unique abilities to be gutted

AST was gutted to the point where it wasn't even itself anymore not because of the card changes, but because of everything else. They might have changed the cards, but on top of that they changed everything about AST that wasn't broken at all.

[ForteNightshade]

I'm with the others who said it's the fact that they simplified the healers.
It really ruined a good part of the expansion for me in all honesty.
It sucks because they did so well in story-telling and the dungeons are cool
but as a heals main, I can't be asked to heal much anymore.
AST is garbage and they catered to Savage players, and even they
aren't even happy with the changes, so who won here?

Actually, they outright said they catered to the people who complained about getting "useless" cards. While some might assume that meant everything but Balance, I suspect a lot of people on the casual side found Spire, Ewer and even Arrow "useless" because they didn't know how to use them. It wasn't catered at all towards Savage raiders. No one in Savage was asking for Astro changes whatsoever. It's my belief these changes occurred because the devs overreacted to "meta" and basically destroyed most utility in this game.

[Jybril]

Actually, they outright said they catered to the people who complained about getting "useless" cards. While some might assume that meant everything but Balance, I suspect a lot of people on the casual side found Spire, Ewer and even Arrow "useless" because they didn't know how to use them. It wasn't catered at all towards Savage raiders. No one in Savage was asking for Astro changes whatsoever. It's my belief these changes occurred because the devs overreacted to "meta" and basically destroyed most utility in this game.

I say this as a casual player but I feel like it had everything to do with balance. Since people kept hollering "If you don't fish balance, you were bad."
They had to strip every single thing that made AST what it was into a boring balance bot with no variety whatsoever.
Now people aren't fishing for balance it's fish for seals where I can barely be asked to do that.

When I played AST, I dealt with the cards I got and changed if I really needed to.
Spire has it's TP in need moments, but I usually fodder up for AoE. I loved AoEing cards, loved potency + cards and extending cards.
I liked old Crown/Lady cards. I can add a bit of DPS to the boss or I can use a mini ED on someone.
Don't forget about the old C/O and the most loved Time Dia. I had fun, which what should matter in this game.
I didn't try and get balance, but was happy when I did get it. I don't care for big numbers. I just wanna have fun.
The old card system is what definitely made AST what it was.

This was as close as Time Mage as we were going to get as well. The identity is gone now.
I'm just irritated that I mean...you stripped us down to nothing, give us no new healers to play with.
Use a sorry excuse to balance us, listened to the few guys screaming in the back and now even he ain't happy lol.
Healers have always been a dime a dozen but now look.

[ForteNightshade]

I say this as a casual player but I feel like it had everything to do with balance. Since people kept hollering "If you don't fish balance, you were bad."
They had to strip every single thing that made AST what it was into a boring balance bot with no variety whatsoever.
Now people aren't fishing for balance it's fish for seals where I can barely be asked to do that.

When I played AST, I dealt with the cards I got and changed if I really needed to.
Spire has it's TP in need moments, but I usually fodder up for AoE. I loved AoEing cards, loved potency + cards and extending cards.
I liked old Crown/Lady cards. I can add a bit of DPS to the boss or I can use a mini ED on someone.
Don't forget about the old C/O and the most loved Time Dia. I had fun, which what should matter in this game.
I didn't try and get balance, but was happy when I did get it. I don't care for big numbers. I just wanna have fun.
The old card system is what definitely made AST what it was.

This was as close as Time Mage as we were going to get as well. The identity is gone now.
I'm just irritated that I mean...you stripped us down to nothing, give us no new healers to play with.
Use a sorry excuse to balance us, listened to the few guys screaming in the back and now even he ain't happy lol.
Healers have always been a dime a dozen but now look.

Oh, I most certainly agree. Unfortunately, the dev team has a horrible habit of listening to the wrong players. Case in point. look at how many people complained about Monk not having a means of maintaining Greased Lightning and how the slow on Riddle of Fire felt awful. What did they do? Keep both problems and slap more situational GL skills you'll ignore 99% of any given fight. Astro falls into a similar boat where they listened to only a small portion of people whining about Balance; probably those looking at speed kill metas and thinking it applies to everything. This is why I cited the devs overreacted. Shadowbringer job balance and design has honestly been a hot mess between too much homogenization, oversimplification and downright overpowered jobs. It's actually quite remarkable how badly they flubbed up.