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    Quote Originally Posted by BarretOblivion View Post
    That pressure from Tanks have been transferred to the 'meta' DPS and the healers now nearly doing as much as tanks.
    Except, no?

    What, are you suddenly going to not care about pushing your damage just because your cap is lower than where you think it should be?

    Because -that- makes everyone work harder.

    Further, given that every tank in Stormblood, other than Warrior, contributed no actual boosts to the party, if you go back to those data logs and start pruning the bonuses they benefited from, it actually is pretty comparable to our situation now.

    Shave off 7-8% from Paladin/Dark Knight, and 10% from warrior. And that's just from slashing, and if you want to be 'technical' about it, you shave off 5%, since you usually had a Samurai or Ninja in the party as well. 6.6% if both.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    We dont deal enough damage, we are dealing less damage relative to the content we are doing.
    Sure you don't.
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    Chloe Lehideux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Except, no?
    What, are you suddenly going to not care about pushing your damage just because your cap is lower than where you think it should be?
    Because -that- makes everyone work harder.
    Further, given that every tank in Stormblood, other than Warrior, contributed no actual boosts to the party, if you go back to those data logs and start pruning the bonuses they benefited from, it actually is pretty comparable to our situation now.
    Shave off 7-8% from Paladin/Dark Knight, and 10% from warrior. And that's just from slashing, and if you want to be 'technical' about it, you shave off 5%, since you usually had a Samurai or Ninja in the party as well. 6.6% if both.
    Didnt know only tanks used to benefit from team wide bonuses... duh

    Shave off these percents from DPS and see what you will get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    Didnt know only tanks used to benefit from team wide bonuses... duh

    Shave off these percents from DPS and see what you will get.
    You get less drastic reductions because it was the DPS and non-White mages bringing those boosts.

    The only things the tanks brought was slashing, and that was only warrior, and it wasn't unique to them.

    Samurai, Black Mage, and Machinist are the ones who dip once we start pruning.

    Ninja shoots up. Dragoon shoots -way up-. Bard might be equivalent to where it is now, but likely raises just a tad. Red mage goes up. Summoner goes up. Astro goes up. Scholar goes down a bit.

    Tanks?

    They -tank-, with the exception of Warrior since it brought its own Slashing.
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    Last edited by Kabooa; 09-28-2019 at 07:02 AM.