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    Billythepancake's Avatar
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    Evelynn Outreguerlain
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Adeacia View Post
    As a healer main since mid HW, I struggle to make sense of the complaints in this topic.

    One issue people have in most games is that they mistake more things to press as complexity. This is not the case. That's just busywork. Pressing one key repeatedly is no different than pressing 4.

    I got really good at cleric stance dancing but didn't complain when it was removed. It was more of a hassle than anything.

    People largely just fished for balance on the old card system, so they made every card balance, and people complain.

    They adjust things based on how people play the jobs, and people complain.

    At this point my belief is that people complain just for the sake of it. If they had nothing to complain about they would just complain about having nothing to complain about.
    "I'm fine with current healers, so people complaining are only doing it just to complain" is probably the most dismissive thing I've heard, but okay. No, I'm not complaining for the sake of it, and I imagine many others are in the same boat. I'd have never made a forum account is healing was genuinely still fun to me, because I'm not the type to care about forums, but after playing scholar at launch, I wanted to try my best to get my voice out there and maybe have it reach someone who could change things for the better. I hate being filled with negativity, but I can't help it when they stripped my favorite job of everything that made it fun and interesting. As for "more buttons doesn't equal more complex" yeah, that's true, it it were like tanks or something where it was constantly 1-2-3 1-2-3, then yes that wouldn't be all that different from spamming 1, but healers rotation was dot and time based, meaning you had to watch timers and reapply them frequently, with those timers being different also meaning you couldn't do just all of them at once, Which was more engaging, imo, because you're much more likely to mess that up and therefore it makes it feel much more satisfying when you don't. If it was TRULY the same, why would people be complaining, with healers in end game at an all time low?

    But, let's focus on not DPS stuff, how about stuff like the fairy for sch, you know, one of the 2 main mechanics that defines that class, and how it has been reduced to nothing but dissipation fodder at worse,and a glorified oGCD that doesn't work 50% of the time at best. Not to mention what they did to poor Selene. Was eos better in Savage? Absolutely, 9.99/10 times, but what about the other 99% of the game, where healing was so lax you didn't need EOS' higher healing? Personally,I always used Selene for those because, well, she made things go faster and her esuna was a life saver in a lot of instances.

    For AST, the new card system makes that class almost impossible to play on a controller, that fact alone makes this new AST system terrible and in need of a rework.
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    Make SCH great again! Seriously though, we just want our class to be fun and engaging again, not OP, is that too much to ask for?

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    Saefinn's Avatar
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    Yesunova Hotgo
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Billythepancake View Post
    No, I'm not complaining for the sake of it, and I imagine many others are in the same boat. I'd have never made a forum account is healing was genuinely still fun to me, because I'm not the type to care about forums, but after playing scholar at launch, I wanted to try my best to get my voice out there and maybe have it reach someone who could change things for the better. I hate being filled with negativity, but I can't help it when they stripped my favorite job of everything that made it fun and interesting.
    I am going to concur with this. This is exactly me too. My forum visits were like once in a blue moon. Nor did I really ever complain, despite SCH moving away from what I preferred and what hooked me to it, I conceded that it happens, but at least I could still find ways to enjoy it and that my vision isn't necessarily shared by all.

    But my lack of enjoyment started in SB and not ShB if anything. But at least DPS weaving made up for it.

    I tried playing it again yesterday and still couldn't like it. Like you, I /want/ to enjoy it. It is not my nature to complain, but it's more constructive to look at what's wrong with something, look at what could make it better, what we like and didn't like and so on as feedback and keeping a discussion going until SE properly address it than to get complacent or just give up.

    AST is about only healer I can find fun at the moment and I try to Nocturnal Sect more because it's less efficient and therefore I have more work to do.
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