Dancer a bit feminine

[AriaEnia]

This was honestly my biggest fear when the job was announced as I was too sure it would be a job catered to females. To my relief, I find it rather unisex - the dance moves are swift and flamboyant, but that's...literally what dancing is, and it's rather elegant, unlike a certain healer that was intentionally designed to look as kawaii as possible because only girls play healer /s.

I dunno, the WHM combat stance, the legs are too spread apart to be called feminine.

[Rasikko]

I'm starting to feel like I'm the only one that just likes the job for what it is and really just wants 1 change. All these threads about it is all change this, change that, I don't like this, I hate that. What scares me is SE reads all this crap. I hope they just keep on ignoring the job.

[Eldtagg]

I agree with you. I've always liked pink.

I've scanned through the thread and it seem like some people are getting stuck on the concept that I think that males expressing their "masculinity" is important.

This is not the case at all

Sure, I am married IRL and have a child but my wife would probably tell you the same thing I tell you now; if you want to use gender roles then I am the "feminine" part in our relationship and she's the masculine.
Just like everyone how masculine or feminine we are change depending on the situation and you as a person.

The men that are so worried and feel like they constantly have to reinforce that they are "men" are people that are insecure about themselves. If I were a female instead I would never be able to live with a man that has to be "a man" 24/7 to stroke their own ego.

I am a man IRL but that doesn't define who I am as a person. My personality does and that has nothing to do with how I look down there.

You lot misunderstand what I am saying. I'm not saying femininity is bad, if it was bad straight men would not be drawn to it, I'm saying that dancer lacks variety "IMO".

When everything is soft and graceful all the time I start to question if we really are performing a war dance or if we are simply just dancing at a stage. It looks nice and flashy but it lacks weight at times.

Put some capoiera moves in there, some spinning fast kicks, some somersaults and some fast almost punch like arm movements with the chakras. Mix it up.

- And I disagree. Ballet have a LOT of powerful moves. Because ballet is not slow all the time.

Some ballet moves that are sometimes very powerful:

- Grande Jeté

- Tour en l'air

- Pirouette

And yes I also took some although basic ballet and salsa when I was young because I had problem with the toprock part of breakdancing since I was so stiff in my hips.

[Eldtagg]

I like it as well. I just feel that they could have made it more like; the setup when you start with your dances could be soft and elegant then after that it could turn into something more inclined to actual fighting but still with flashy elegant moves.

Asian martial arts, boxing and dancing is not that far off from each other.

Most of the times it just feels like when I'm looking at my character that the dancing would just be annoying when you try to throw chakrams around because it doesn't IMO feel like the chakram fighting part always line up well with the step moves.

I would love to see something like a butterfly kick and when you turned in air you would throw the chakrams. Or why not a backflip kick where you throw the chakrams at the start.

And before someone mentions it; yes I know Chakram Kata is not very flashy but why not make it more like disc fighting in Tron then? Disc Wars from 2010 Tron: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyoKXfBQgX?

[Kabooa]

Eh. Can I recommend Monk to you, then? They have a good variety of combat animations that range from quick and efficient, weighty and extravagant, simple and brutal, and suitably fantasy troped.

[Lersayil]

It's highly subjective, but yeah I also think that some job animations are designed with largely one gender in mind. WHM, DNC, WAR and to a lesser degree MNK comes to mind. Its noticable, but none of them are by any means horribly genderbending to my taste.

...Then again, this is one of the reasons I play mostly female races. In my very subjective opinion, they are the ones that most of the animations fit with. (and yes the other is me being a middle aged man, so the rule says I have to play a female miqo or aura).

[Eldtagg]

Eh. Can I recommend Monk to you, then? They have a good variety of combat animations that range from quick and efficient, weighty and extravagant, simple and brutal, and suitably fantasy troped.

Not really what im discussing..

[Hamakakun]

As someone who practice martial arts, i find dancer have the right amount of grace and punch as any other martial arts that originated from Asia. Silat, Kung Fu, even Muay Thai have some sort of dance-like in thier movement. That is where the "arts" are. But i can understand why westerners have different opinion on this.

[Samsta]

So? Is there a point in this post? Yes, some roles are better suited to some genders due to our cultural background and uprising, nothing weird about that, most people see warriors and tanks in general to be the manly man job.

[Samsta]

I dunno, the WHM combat stance, the legs are too spread apart to be called feminine.

That is why I use /cpose which makes it better