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    Quote Originally Posted by Alklios View Post
    I'm seeing this quite often, this is referred to as the "False Cause Fallacy", or immediately coming to conclusion that correlation equals causation. A wrongful kick is a wrongful kick regardless of how often it happens.

    Despite how many disagreements you get in with someone, that is still no license to completely deny them the work that they have done with you. A wrongful kick is a wrongful kick no matter -how much- you dislike someone. And I want Square to have an intervention to reimburse lost progress to a meta line of thought, which I'm seeing here, that disagreements are congruent to harassment. A paid service needs to provide protection or insurance against player abuse.
    I’m sorry, but if you’re disruptive enough in a run for someone in the party to dismiss you—and if this happens repeatedly, which your opening post implies—the issue does not lie with others. No matter how many times you try to insist otherwise. The party in question saw it more prudent to remove you than to keep you. Deal with it; report if you will lose that much sleep over it; and then move on. Demanding compensation isn’t going to get you anywhere—you’re demanding something you didn’t earn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    I’m sorry, but if you’re disruptive enough in a run for someone in the party to dismiss you—and if this happens repeatedly, which your opening post implies—the issue does not lie with others. No matter how many times you try to insist otherwise. The party in question saw it more prudent to remove you than to keep you. Deal with it; report if you will lose that much sleep over it; and then move on. Demanding compensation isn’t going to get you anywhere—you’re demanding something you didn’t earn.
    I think I did earn the 2/3 bosses completed at least in that specific example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alklios View Post
    I think I did earn the 2/3 bosses completed at least in that specific example.
    Tomestones aren’t given until you complete the dungeon—which you did not do. Therefore, in the eyes of the GMs, you earned nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alklios View Post
    I think I did earn the 2/3 bosses completed at least in that specific example.
    Completion bonuses are for killing the last boss. You did not kill the last boss, so you did not earn a completion bonus. You lost nothing earned. Its why someone can join a duty in progress just before or even during the final boss and still get full rewards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    Completion bonuses are for killing the last boss. You did not kill the last boss, so you did not earn a completion bonus. You lost nothing earned. Its why someone can join a duty in progress just before or even during the final boss and still get full rewards.
    2/3 of the boss isn't part of the completion bonus.

    Expert roulette is 90 phanta total. 40 dungeon + 50 completion bonus.

    When you slay a boss you see yourself receiving goetia and phantasmagoria. That reward should be yours, and kept. But it is not. A kick deletes all that progress -in addition- to denying you completion bonus as mentioned a few times in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alklios View Post
    2/3 of the boss isn't part of the completion bonus.

    Expert roulette is 90 phanta total. 40 dungeon + 50 completion bonus.

    When you slay a boss you see yourself receiving goetia and phantasmagoria. That reward should be yours, and kept. But it is not. A kick deletes all that progress -in addition- to denying you completion bonus as mentioned a few times in this thread.
    Even though the game says you earned them, it doesn’t give them to you until you complete the duty. This is likely in place to keep people from making premades to repeatedly farm the first boss > drop instance > repeat.
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