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    I Like Ishtola. I think your not away of ending of ffxiv shadowbringer. Zodark and Hydrila are different being one has life sacrifice to it. I think you are mislead to think Zodiarc isn't evil when one feed it life keep it alive sound like evil to me why was hydilria need to stop him. remind me of argument are old god evil on wow. if you didn't notice the end Zodiarc isn't going finish 5.0 mind you not that I thought it would be. through the destruction of shard killed billion of life. seem to me you are confuse about good and evil. Zodiarc evil because the Ascain goal is cause all the shard to merge with the source to bring back they fail races. Hydrilia banish Zodiarc into the moon so that he was imprison there. why do you think the ascian have gone to moon to heard they master commands. pay attention to the story and the lore before you respond please

    yes being warrior of darkness on first is different yet where is Hydrila located on source so she not responsible for action on first it was ascian who were responabile action on first they move all world close to re merge with source because they need weak the prison for Zodiarc if any crystal being we be fight it be Zodiarc it he who move ascian to doing these action it he who command them to do it. I think complete childness to believe that Zodiarc is not evil.

    feel like some of these respond are just trolls
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savagelf View Post
    I think you are mislead to think Zodiarc isn't evil when one feed it life keep it alive sound like evil to me
    OK first trying to decipher your broken English so I may be missing a few points you are trying to make. But...

    Evil is in the eye of the beholder. Zodiarc required a sacrifice to come into existence, but those sacrifices were willing, they were not using captives or prisoners of war or those they deemed as lesser. Everything, including ourselves irl, need to sacrifice life some form to exist. Even in game we are killing beastmen and others without hesitation. We kill wildlife by the thousands and instead of trying to help those that are tempered, we just kill them to maintain order. Our first instinct is to kill primals and we have no qualms about doing the same to those that summon them. We also strike down Garleans without hesitation, sparing just the few who cut off all ties from friends and family to be one of us. All of this just to exist. From a different perspective even the WoL and the Scions could be seen as a vastly evil force in the world.

    The Ascians went extinct, they are trying to bring the souls of the sundered together after they were split against their will by another entity who took it upon itself to do what it felt was best and if the game was presented from the pov of who we know of as ascians, they would be the heroes. You may perceive Zodiarc and the ascians as evil, but that doesn't mean they are, just that you think they are.

    Cutting the argument down to "he required a sacrifice to be alive and therefore is evil" is very simplistic. Esp when its countered with "she committed genocide of all living creatures and the planet itself, but its cool". And you can say the ascians are committing genocide as well, and from our perspective they are, but from theirs they are not, they are undoing the genocide already done but merging all that once was. It is true we would cease to exist in our current form, but its like putting a broken mirror back together. The pieces may be a mirror themselves, but only one part of a whole. So to them and from their perspective, what they are doing is vastly on the side of "good".

    But like I said its all relative, so its more of an everyone sucks here situation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Savagelf View Post
    feel like some of these respond are just trolls
    Someone presents a different pov that does not align with mine and dislikes a character I like: must be trolls. Cause of course, who wants to have a discussion anyway.
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