Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[RightfulKing]

I mean, playable races don't really adhere to lore. Male miqo'te are regarded as uncommon but a ton of players still make and play them anyways?

Playerbase has no correlation to lore because placing restriction on character customization for lore that Square Enix can make however they please would just feel oppressive. Like, "you can't play as a male mi'qote because they're rare just because we said so" would sound pretty silly and not be fun.

And suggesting that male viera should be gated off as a very difficult prize option when females are immediately available is uhh...

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

maybe literally burn down a section of forest so they have a reason to travel the world presumable to prevent any more forest fires.

I would Pray that they have better writing and flesh it out abit more, but this would at least give a real reason for them to become a playable race venturing outside the forest.
Im not 100% against Male Viera coming to be, but Id still want some lore to justify and connect them to the world, and Not just slap them in "just Because."

[Duskane]

Unlocking player race is kinda silly, i don't think allied races being unlockable went well with WoW, certainly wouldn't go well with ff14.

[Kobalos]

It should be something thats locked behind so many walls only the most serious will work to unlock it and thus keep them as 'rare' as the lore suggests. They're not supposed to leave the forest...

Neither are the females. The viera as a whole don't leave the forest yet the females were just thrown out there and now the worlds full of 'em.

[Alleo]

that makes perfect sense, male and female viera are hostile towards each other in the ff lore.

Was this stated in the FF14 lore? Because other FF lore does not count towards this game and at least on the first they are seemingly not hostile towards each other.

Also if you are playing a female Viera and are against males because of people lusting after them...isnt that a bit strange, seeing how the presentation of the female Vieras from SE side was mostly done with sexy poses and fanservice? (Including their racial gear)

[Dogempire]

SHHHH, don't say that!
You'll upset people who hate the Lore Argument.

Nobody cares about lore when it comes to making playable races available though, it's a game, people want to have fun and play what they want.

There's a reason the WOL doesn't have to eat or sleep or use the bathroom gameplaywise, and it's because it's just tedious realism that contributes nothing to the gameplay experience by adding it.

The same can be said for lore restrictions on races, it's just something tedious that adds an element of realism that a majority of the playerbase wouldn't enjoy and wouldn't add anything valuable to the game. Plus there's already a precedent set on gender restrictions because male Miqo'tes and Femroes were added.

Nobody's arguing that the lore doesn't make these races rare, what people are arguing is that nobody cares that the lore makes them rare and it's a stupid reason for excluding them.

[Lastelli]

I would Pray that they have better writing and flesh it out abit more, but this would at least give a real reason for them to become a playable race venturing outside the forest.
Im not 100% against Male Viera coming to be, but Id still want some lore to justify and connect them to the world, and Not just slap them in "just Because."

And yet, we have female viera and male hrothgar only "just because". Lore doesn't provide a convincing explanation on why eorzea is suddenly populated by the new races, and there's zero reason why female hrothgar and male viera are nowhere to be seen in both worlds. I mean, it's pretty obvious that lore is not the real reason.
Anyway, reading about lore as a justification for gameplay restrictions just before the implementation of the Nier raid makes me laugh.

[Atamis]

Neither are the females. The viera as a whole don't leave the forest yet the females were just thrown out there and now the worlds full of 'em.

that just simply isn't true. the females leave the forest all the time, they're just treated as exiles when they do. All the way back when they were introduced in Tactics advanced it was tribes female viera living in the woods but sometimes leaving because reasons. There has never been a male viera model though, there wasn't even mentioning of males until 12. Not saying they can't add one, just that it shouldn't be given out like candy like the equally "rare" male miqo.

[Kobalos]

Whats the likeshood that if SE ever did release them they would do like black desert do and only make one job available to them and limit that job to lvl 50 XD

Pppst it'll be beast master

[Atamis]

I find the lore argument substantially less convincing for not-ronso (hesitate to call them Ronso at all being reskinned roes with bad back posture) as they never had any precedent to being anything but 1:1 gender ratio and the biological fact that that no species has ever had a ratio skewed to the male side without suffering massive die off or extinction.
Was there even a demand for knock-off ronsos?