Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Kobalos]

It should be something thats locked behind so many walls only the most serious will work to unlock it and thus keep them as 'rare' as the lore suggests. They're not supposed to leave the forest...

Neither are the females. The viera as a whole don't leave the forest yet the females were just thrown out there and now the worlds full of 'em.

[Atamis]

Neither are the females. The viera as a whole don't leave the forest yet the females were just thrown out there and now the worlds full of 'em.

that just simply isn't true. the females leave the forest all the time, they're just treated as exiles when they do. All the way back when they were introduced in Tactics advanced it was tribes female viera living in the woods but sometimes leaving because reasons. There has never been a male viera model though, there wasn't even mentioning of males until 12. Not saying they can't add one, just that it shouldn't be given out like candy like the equally "rare" male miqo.

[Jybril]

Not saying they can't add one, just that it shouldn't be given out like candy like the equally "rare" male miqo.

If they did this to female Viera, would you like this?
You want people to jump through hoops trying to unlock another gender...really?
That's not fair and if they did this, prepare for the mightiest of crap storms
this forum has ever seen lol.

BLOOD MUST BE SHED FOR THE MALE VIERA

[Atamis]

If they did this to female Viera, would you like this?
You want people to jump through hoops trying to unlock another gender...really?
That's not fair and if they did this, prepare for the mightiest of crap storms
this forum has ever seen lol.

BLOOD MUST BE SHED FOR THE MALE VIERA

Yes actually. I already unlocked the alliance races in wow using a lore abiding questline and an untold amount of dailies for said faction. Adding one for Viera as a whole wouldn't bother me in the slightest. In fact it was a missed opportunity to add actual backstory and reason for them being here. The Au'Ra had a pre-xpac quest line explaining why they are here, what they want, and who they are. The Viera (Lazily copy pasted Fran) got a side appearance in a raid only related to them because suddenly the previously coastal location of Orbonne Monastery from Tactics is now in the middle of the Golmore Jungle. The not-Ronso had even less than that. We didn't even get naming conventions until after they were a playable race.

And yes. I wouldn't mind a relevant lore related quest be used to keep the man bun population roughly at whatever it would be in lore. I do not mind earning something instead of it getting handed to me on a silver platter using a silver spoon. Its completely "fair" that lore reasons can be respected without reducing everything to mediocrity. Whatever whining the forums do is irrelevant, people cry about everything like selfish brats, i wouldn't expect this to be any different.

What I would want for the man buns since the ship has already sailed for everyone else, is simple. You go back to Fran, Fran takes you to a section of the forest under attack, You help them defend the area as a daily hub/eureka esque questline where you eventually entice a local man bun to help protect it, everyone ultimately fails to save the section of forest because the garleans presumable has a deus ex machina in their pocket, large sections of forest burn to the ground, young man buns now venture forth into Eorzea to combat threats to the forest from external sources.

dirty, simple, lore friendly, not everyone will want to do it, even less will complete it. Suddenly being a manbun has weight over yet another "i paid for a fantasia"
You can argue "its only a matter of time before everyoen unlocks it!" and i would just counter with "yes let me tell you about how many people got every relic weapon from eureka!" The population will far closer to accurate than just throwing them under the lore bus with the male miqos.

[SomeRandomHuman]

Yes actually. I already unlocked the alliance races in wow using a lore abiding questline and an untold amount of dailies for said faction. Adding one for Viera as a whole wouldn't bother me in the slightest. In fact it was a missed opportunity to add actual backstory and reason for them being here. The Au'Ra had a pre-xpac quest line explaining why they are here, what they want, and who they are. The Viera (Lazily copy pasted Fran) got a side appearance in a raid only related to them because suddenly the previously coastal location of Orbonne Monastery from Tactics is now in the middle of the Golmore Jungle. The not-Ronso had even less than that. We didn't even get naming conventions until after they were a playable race.

And yes. I wouldn't mind a relevant lore related quest be used to keep the man bun population roughly at whatever it would be in lore. I do not mind earning something instead of it getting handed to me on a silver platter using a silver spoon. Its completely "fair" that lore reasons can be respected without reducing everything to mediocrity. Whatever whining the forums do is irrelevant, people cry about everything like selfish brats, i wouldn't expect this to be any different.

What I would want for the man buns since the ship has already sailed for everyone else, is simple. You go back to Fran, Fran takes you to a section of the forest under attack, You help them defend the area as a daily hub/eureka esque questline where you eventually entice a local man bun to help protect it, everyone ultimately fails to save the section of forest because the garleans presumable has a deus ex machina in their pocket, large sections of forest burn to the ground, young man buns now venture forth into Eorzea to combat threats to the forest from external sources.

dirty, simple, lore friendly, not everyone will want to do it, even less will complete it. Suddenly being a manbun has weight over yet another "i paid for a fantasia"
You can argue "its only a matter of time before everyoen unlocks it!" and i would just counter with "yes let me tell you about how many people got every relic weapon from eureka!" The population will far closer to accurate than just throwing them under the lore bus with the male miqos.

Then they should do this for the female Viera as well while forcing everyone playing one to switch off until they unlock it.

[Atamis]

Then they should do this for the female Viera as well while forcing everyone playing one to switch off until they unlock it.

That will require retconning lore. As one of the "deals" with Fran and the "queen" is to take in refugees from Robanastre. Many of who were Viera. (and i guess Bangaa weren't welcome)
But we both know that isn't happening and they have no reason too. Being spiteful isn't going to make people change their minds about this.

[SomeRandomHuman]

That will require retconning lore. As one of the "deals" with Fran and the "queen" is to take in refugees from Robanastre. Many of who were Viera. (and i guess Bangaa weren't welcome)
But we both know that isn't happening and they have no reason too. Being spiteful isn't going to make people change their minds about this.

You mean retconning the lore the same way they did for male miqo'te and duskwright elezen? When it comes to making a race playable, lore means absolutely nothing.

No matter their excuse, gender locking races in this day and age is 125% unacceptable. They unlocked previously gender locked races, and said they were past doing gender locks. No matter how you try to defend the matter its still hypocritical and unprofessional on SE's part. Had I the chance, I'd sit down and talk with the dev team about how much of a stain this puts on their moral consistency.

It may be a small matter to some, but considering they have made the counter parts for other races for 2.0, its just entirely unacceptable for any reason for them to gender lock again. It needs to be fixed lest they spiral down yet another hole they dug themselves into.

[Nynuwe]

Since Au Ra was mentioned, the writers could alternatively add a quest in the MSQ that has us help male Viera defend the forest, after which they pledge to join our efforts to fight off the Garleans outside the forest. Then have the male Viera added in the next patch. And do the same for female Hrothgar -giving them an introduction through the MSQ before they become available to us.

Then much like we did with Au Ra, continue to have more interactions with male Viera and female Hrothgar individuals through different quests added in later patches and expansions. That way their introduction is explained, while not actually gating the genders behind quests. This would maintain equal treatment across all races in terms of accessibility without breaking in-game lore.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

BLOOD MUST BE SHED FOR THE MALE VIERA

Im sure you aren't being serious, but you know there are people who probably think this way.