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    I would only support man buns if they made it hard to acquire. Don't throw them under the lore bus like they did male mithra. It should be something thats locked behind so many walls only the most serious will work to unlock it and thus keep them as 'rare' as the lore suggests. They're not supposed to leave the forest, but whatever we can set fire to the xiv lore, maybe literally burn down a section of forest so they have a reason to travel the world presumable to prevent any more forest fires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atamis View Post
    maybe literally burn down a section of forest so they have a reason to travel the world presumable to prevent any more forest fires.
    I would Pray that they have better writing and flesh it out abit more, but this would at least give a real reason for them to become a playable race venturing outside the forest.
    Im not 100% against Male Viera coming to be, but Id still want some lore to justify and connect them to the world, and Not just slap them in "just Because."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atamis View Post
    It should be something thats locked behind so many walls only the most serious will work to unlock it and thus keep them as 'rare' as the lore suggests. They're not supposed to leave the forest...
    Neither are the females. The viera as a whole don't leave the forest yet the females were just thrown out there and now the worlds full of 'em.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobalos View Post
    Neither are the females. The viera as a whole don't leave the forest yet the females were just thrown out there and now the worlds full of 'em.
    that just simply isn't true. the females leave the forest all the time, they're just treated as exiles when they do. All the way back when they were introduced in Tactics advanced it was tribes female viera living in the woods but sometimes leaving because reasons. There has never been a male viera model though, there wasn't even mentioning of males until 12. Not saying they can't add one, just that it shouldn't be given out like candy like the equally "rare" male miqo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atamis View Post
    Not saying they can't add one, just that it shouldn't be given out like candy like the equally "rare" male miqo.
    If they did this to female Viera, would you like this?
    You want people to jump through hoops trying to unlock another gender...really?
    That's not fair and if they did this, prepare for the mightiest of crap storms
    this forum has ever seen lol.

    BLOOD MUST BE SHED FOR THE MALE VIERA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jybril View Post
    If they did this to female Viera, would you like this?
    You want people to jump through hoops trying to unlock another gender...really?
    That's not fair and if they did this, prepare for the mightiest of crap storms
    this forum has ever seen lol.

    BLOOD MUST BE SHED FOR THE MALE VIERA
    Yes actually. I already unlocked the alliance races in wow using a lore abiding questline and an untold amount of dailies for said faction. Adding one for Viera as a whole wouldn't bother me in the slightest. In fact it was a missed opportunity to add actual backstory and reason for them being here. The Au'Ra had a pre-xpac quest line explaining why they are here, what they want, and who they are. The Viera (Lazily copy pasted Fran) got a side appearance in a raid only related to them because suddenly the previously coastal location of Orbonne Monastery from Tactics is now in the middle of the Golmore Jungle. The not-Ronso had even less than that. We didn't even get naming conventions until after they were a playable race.

    And yes. I wouldn't mind a relevant lore related quest be used to keep the man bun population roughly at whatever it would be in lore. I do not mind earning something instead of it getting handed to me on a silver platter using a silver spoon. Its completely "fair" that lore reasons can be respected without reducing everything to mediocrity. Whatever whining the forums do is irrelevant, people cry about everything like selfish brats, i wouldn't expect this to be any different.

    What I would want for the man buns since the ship has already sailed for everyone else, is simple. You go back to Fran, Fran takes you to a section of the forest under attack, You help them defend the area as a daily hub/eureka esque questline where you eventually entice a local man bun to help protect it, everyone ultimately fails to save the section of forest because the garleans presumable has a deus ex machina in their pocket, large sections of forest burn to the ground, young man buns now venture forth into Eorzea to combat threats to the forest from external sources.

    dirty, simple, lore friendly, not everyone will want to do it, even less will complete it. Suddenly being a manbun has weight over yet another "i paid for a fantasia"
    You can argue "its only a matter of time before everyoen unlocks it!" and i would just counter with "yes let me tell you about how many people got every relic weapon from eureka!" The population will far closer to accurate than just throwing them under the lore bus with the male miqos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atamis View Post
    Yes actually. I already unlocked the alliance races in wow using a lore abiding questline and an untold amount of dailies for said faction. Adding one for Viera as a whole wouldn't bother me in the slightest. In fact it was a missed opportunity to add actual backstory and reason for them being here. The Au'Ra had a pre-xpac quest line explaining why they are here, what they want, and who they are. The Viera (Lazily copy pasted Fran) got a side appearance in a raid only related to them because suddenly the previously coastal location of Orbonne Monastery from Tactics is now in the middle of the Golmore Jungle. The not-Ronso had even less than that. We didn't even get naming conventions until after they were a playable race.

    And yes. I wouldn't mind a relevant lore related quest be used to keep the man bun population roughly at whatever it would be in lore. I do not mind earning something instead of it getting handed to me on a silver platter using a silver spoon. Its completely "fair" that lore reasons can be respected without reducing everything to mediocrity. Whatever whining the forums do is irrelevant, people cry about everything like selfish brats, i wouldn't expect this to be any different.

    What I would want for the man buns since the ship has already sailed for everyone else, is simple. You go back to Fran, Fran takes you to a section of the forest under attack, You help them defend the area as a daily hub/eureka esque questline where you eventually entice a local man bun to help protect it, everyone ultimately fails to save the section of forest because the garleans presumable has a deus ex machina in their pocket, large sections of forest burn to the ground, young man buns now venture forth into Eorzea to combat threats to the forest from external sources.

    dirty, simple, lore friendly, not everyone will want to do it, even less will complete it. Suddenly being a manbun has weight over yet another "i paid for a fantasia"
    You can argue "its only a matter of time before everyoen unlocks it!" and i would just counter with "yes let me tell you about how many people got every relic weapon from eureka!" The population will far closer to accurate than just throwing them under the lore bus with the male miqos.
    Then they should do this for the female Viera as well while forcing everyone playing one to switch off until they unlock it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeRandomHuman View Post
    Then they should do this for the female Viera as well while forcing everyone playing one to switch off until they unlock it.
    That will require retconning lore. As one of the "deals" with Fran and the "queen" is to take in refugees from Robanastre. Many of who were Viera. (and i guess Bangaa weren't welcome)
    But we both know that isn't happening and they have no reason too. Being spiteful isn't going to make people change their minds about this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jybril View Post

    BLOOD MUST BE SHED FOR THE MALE VIERA


    Im sure you aren't being serious, but you know there are people who probably think this way.
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    Last edited by Zanarkand-Ronso; 09-24-2019 at 08:06 AM.