Tactful ways to inform people that they're playing badly?

[Annabellechu]

Everyone has feelings and yes feelings are indeed not rational. Remember that feelings are negative and positive. This exact problem could end up positive for everyone if people took a couple seconds to fix the problem. I see the kick option as a last resort option that if used too quickly, shows a lack of empathy or lazyness.

[Hash_Browns]

Everyone has feelings and yes feelings are indeed not rational. Remember that feelings are negative and positive. This exact problem could end up positive for everyone if people took a couple seconds to fix the problem. I see the kick option as a last resort option that if used too quickly, shows a lack of empathy or lazyness.

Would just like to point out:

When I queue up for a dungeon, I don't care about other peoples feelings. Will I be nice? Sure.
Will I try to give some advice? Yes. But it's plainly clear when people aren't willing to learn.

A vote kick is the last step, but once you have dealt with the "You don't pay my sub" attitude it's really hard to find sympathy for people who lack the skill to do even the very basics in high level content.
Also, would just like to point out that I'm not in the dungeon to teach someone a class. I'm there to complete a dungeon.

If a DPS, tank, or healer aren't doing the role they chose, I'm going to try and replace them - not coddle or teach them how to play.

Half the time when I even offer advice it's thrown back at me.

As it stands, even if the run will be longer because I kicked a healer, and another one doesn't queue for 10 minutes I am still not willing to put up with some horrible player who has a 50% overheal, regens tanks when topped off, and does nothing 80% of the time when they could be DPSing.

Also just to be clear, a common disconnect here seems to be that people who are willing to kick others are toxic elists who have the highest of standards, where you need to be dealing super high damage as a healer, and you need to do savage content. This isn't the case at all.

it's pretty easy to play by the basics:

Healers - ABC, DPS when not healing, use OGCD heals, AOE at +3 mobs, play cards if you're an AST
Tanks - keep aggro, use cooldowns effectively, pull large packs, AOEs at +3 mobs
DPS - stay out of bad, AOE at +3 mobs, ABC

This is all stuff you learn before level 50. I should be seeing it in level 70-80 content.

[Jybril]

So question.
Does this happen to you folks often?
Seems like some of you seemingly get
an awful lot of bad players...

[Awha]

So question.
Does this happen to you folks often?
Seems like some of you seemingly get
an awful lot of bad players...

I do not run into bad players often, but I do run into players that I honestly do not wish to play with fairly often, that is why I tend to mostly queue with friends.

[Dogempire]

I do not run into bad players often, but I do run into players that I honestly do not wish to play with fairly often, that is why I tend to mostly queue with friends.

I'm genuinely interested in what you mean by a person you don't want to play with fairly often

[KageTokage]

I'm genuinely interested in what you mean by a person you don't want to play with fairly often

There's a selection of individuals from my DC I personally dread having to do ES1-4 reclears with because they've proven to me even since back in SB that they're...less then reliable and prone to screwing up randomly at pretty much any point in a fight.