Can we please just have instanced housing already?

[Kuro_Mao]

+1 for instanced personal housing all areas. I don't need want neighbors, hell make it like an apartment wether people can visit your house. If you can't give us instance housing at least give us Condos/townhouses with a yard/porch balcony in three sizes and accommodate the same amenities of houses. maybe make us overlook the wards the houses are in.

[Moonlite]

Apartments ARE instanced housing, so are FC house rooms. Stop being picky. This "I want it my way and I want it now" attitude is getting really old.

That is like saying Inn rooms and Squadron rooms are instanced housing. I think you might want to look up what house means. Or if you want to defend it make SE remove all outdoor aspects from the housing system and force the others to play the same. You also part of the point is that they didn't build an instanced housing system they reused assets to try to cover the fact the current design is inadequate. Because they just reused other game aspects they seem to be unable to deliver on any upgrades.



You know what is really old, when people line up to protect SE. The system is a joke and heaven forbid anyone call out the dev team. The same team that can't count how many copies of stormblood they sold and how many instances they would need, since they instance every quest at the start. It is always the players fault and never poor design. Maybe one day they won't admit they were wrong, but just change it. And we can all pretend like they didn't spend years pretending nothing was wrong.

[Kuro_Mao]

Full agree with OP especially the last argument.

The excuse that pretends instancied houses are ressources consuming have always sound to me like a bad joke. Any Inn room already works like as an instance and guess what : one character can't be in two instance so it wouldn't change anything. SE excuses are really, really poor excuses. The worst : we can loose seasonal event items if we loose house and never getting them back since no PNC sell them, even thought we have the achievment.

The devs have pointed this out several times. Housing before Shirogane was opened up was 2/3's the game space and it was asked at every Fan event. Since Shirogane opened they have also expanded ALL wards again. This just comes down to monthly drive space in a datacenter. That sort of infrastructure for the style of IT environment this game has is not cheap int hat scale of business. Even though we make look at a 3.84 TB SAS SSD and go that's more than an econo-box used car that could double as a skate, it cuts to deep in their profit margin to care. From my perspective, and I've run Data center for medical in hospitals that specialize in OB/Gyn... In 2014 the 54 tb of space I needed for 450,000 patients came down to a monthly cost of $2800 w/power per month over the 5 year period before. Granted things in this game will need much more than that; its a huge cost to SE. Before the data center was moved form Montreal to California; My companies backup center was moved to an upgraded space at a cheaper price as they needed more room for this game when they implemented housing as a result. what we associate to cost per TB in our PC vs their needs on an epic IT scale are extremely different.

[Lycieus]

The devs have pointed this out several times. Housing before Shirogane was opened up was 2/3's the game space and it was asked at every Fan event. Since Shirogane opened they have also expanded ALL wards again. This just comes down to monthly drive space in a datacenter. That sort of infrastructure for the style of IT environment this game has is not cheap int hat scale of business. Even though we make look at a 3.84 TB SAS SSD and go that's more than an econo-box used car that could double as a skate, it cuts to deep in their profit margin to care. From my perspective, and I've run Data center for medical in hospitals that specialize in OB/Gyn... In 2014 the 54 tb of space I needed for 450,000 patients came down to a monthly cost of $2800 w/power per month over the 5 year period before. Granted things in this game will need much more than that; its a huge cost to SE. Before the data center was moved form Montreal to California; My companies backup center was moved to an upgraded space at a cheaper price as they needed more room for this game when they implemented housing as a result. what we associate to cost per TB in our PC vs their needs on an epic IT scale are extremely different.

I don't suppose the reason that expansions to housing are requested so often has something to do with the fact that there are only enough houses for about 15-20% of the playerbase, assuming that everyone only has one house?

Does maintaining the space for housing cost money? Yeah. Are fluctuations in housing capacity going to increase this? Probably, but also probably not by much. As people like to keep reminding us, we have apartments already, so the game already allows everyone to have a private instance that they can furnish. A bare bones implementation of instanced housing would add a room or two, and an outdoor area for everyone.

[Riblet]

I've rather enjoyed having a marketboard in front of my house for the past 5 years, and yelling at anyone who uses it to "get off my lawn".

Instance housing? No thanks.

[Edax]

Apartments aren't instanced housing. They are open FC rooms. If they were truly instanced housing and not just some knock off of another in game asset don't you think it would have been easier to expand now. They keep throwing the bone out we are going to do X to apartments. It feels just like when someone says let me go to the back and look. It is just a routine both parties play to stay nice and dream.

Apartments ARE instanced housing, so are FC house rooms. Stop being picky. This "I want it my way and I want it now" attitude is getting really old.

That is like saying Inn rooms and Squadron rooms are instanced housing. I think you might want to look up what house means.

He said "housing".

hous·ing

noun
1.
houses and apartments considered collectively.

[Krojack]

Why would SE do that? The current system is an anchor to keep peoples sub active.

Once you buy a plot and put all the time into making a nice house you don't want to lose it so even IF you're not actively playing the game you keep your sub going and need to login once in a great while to go into your house.

Why would a company change that system?

[AngeliouxRein]

mmm...I don't mind the idea of another form of housing. I'm low key hoping they introduce farmhouses that can be decorated like a house but with a farm attached. I know they have only hinted at it so I am not going to hold my breath but if they do bring farms, that's how I want it to be. The other thing is (don't hate me), I wouldn't own the 3 houses I have now if my characters could share a house. I would literally move all characters to the same server to share the one house I like the most and let others have a chance at getting a house. But alas, this is not an option and it kills me on the inside that it isn't. But from every MMO I played that had unique housing issues, this one is actually not the worst I have seen.

Also, my last thing is I fully love the idea of us being able to buy like a penthouse that can have a real garden! Just the thought of being able to upgrade an apartment puts a smile on my face. Sigh, *shakes fist* c'mon, farmhouse or penthouse D;!

[Eldevern]

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One time and again, most of us don't ask new wards but INSTANCIED housing. And that is pretty different. I know programming, I practiced both client side and server side.

They refuse instancied housing talking about instancied housing as is was adding some wards. People who ask instancied housing ask.. instancied housing, no "more wards". People, like me who understand the difference know too why we ask instances and no wards.

The technical pretext is a bad joke :

One player use one instance at time.
They added TRUST (a solo dungeon, then a solo instance)
They added housing storage
We can solo dungeons
We can be alone in Eureka
etc.

And instances are a problem?

Few players can own a whole ward and they have a problem for instancied housing... that are nothing else than a bigger apartement?

Seriously, the technical argument is a pretty bad joke.

[Jojoya]

One time and again, most of us don't ask new wards but INSTANCIED housing. And that is pretty different. I know programming, I practiced both client side and server side.

They refuse instancied housing talking about instancied housing as is was adding some wards. People who ask instancied housing ask.. instancied housing, no "more wards". People, like me who understand the difference know too why we ask instances and no wards.

The technical pretext is a bad joke :

One player use one instance at time.
They added TRUST (a solo dungeon, then a solo instance)
They added housing storage
We can solo dungeons
We can be alone in Eureka
etc.

And instances are a problem?

Few players can own a whole ward and they have a problem for instancied housing... that are nothing else than a bigger apartement?

Seriously, the technical argument is a pretty bad joke.

The problem with asking for instanced housing is that SE has already given us that - apartments - and players have said they don't like them.

Players need to be asking for instanced house plots, a small but crucial difference. Or they need to be more specific why they don't feel that apartments are an acceptable alternative to a house in a ward and what changes they would like to see made so they would be acceptable.

Just clamoring for SE to add instanced housing isn't going to go anywhere when we already have it.