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  1. #111
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lycieus View Post
    I'm sorry, you don't get to tell me what I think, thanks .
    You opened this topic, so I have all rights to do that, buddy
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  2. #112
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    X'lota Qi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Bap View Post
    Might want to read a book on how to read graphs.
    Whoever made it might want to. The line curves implying the amount went up and then came down slightly at 5.xx. If you only mean the points to be significant you use straight lines. In that case it should be a bar graph. Line graphs are misused in many cases.
    Still meaningless without player data.
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    Last edited by MsQi; 09-21-2019 at 05:54 AM. Reason: additional info
    "A good RPG needs a healthy dose of imbalance."
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuC365vjzBFmvbu6M7dB80A

  3. #113
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    Lycieus's Avatar
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    Legosi Grey
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    Quote Originally Posted by yukiiyuki View Post
    You opened this topic, so I have all rights to do that, buddy
    You get to engage with the arguments I made. You don't get to project what's going on in my head based on what someone else said. I never voiced support for paid housing of any sort, despite wanting housing for everyone.
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lycieus View Post
    You get to engage with the arguments I made. You don't get to project what's going on in my head based on what someone else said. I never voiced support for paid housing of any sort, despite wanting housing for everyone.
    You know what people say on this forum? Maybe this game isnt for you and you should try another one. I heard they have instanced housing in ESO, everyone is happy.
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lycieus View Post
    I'm sorry, you don't get to tell me what I think, thanks .

    Your comments are a little strange. It says you have been here since 2012. Those of us who have been here since the beginning understand(accept?) what SE is. This is a sub game that is as close to f2p microtransaction you are going to get. SE isn't going to implement anything like instance housing without cashing in. I think the mogshop is gross. SE is as bad as EA or Activision and the player base supports them. As long as they get MSQ and preserve lore, they don't seem to care. If forcing people to pay even more gets them a house if they want one. I think we have to live with it.


    If you think they are better then that. I am glad you still have faith in them. I lost faith somewhere early in the 2.X that we are all credit card numbers and they want to milk us bad. Also we don't get many in english SE has some pretty heavy handed phone games.
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  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by yukiiyuki View Post
    You opened this topic, so I have all rights to do that, buddy
    What kind of ridiculous logic is this. No you do not.
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    Last edited by TheForce; 09-21-2019 at 06:02 AM.

  7. #117
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    Peljra Nayitsu
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    One of the worst things about not owning a house/apartment is having all this event furniture you can't even use.
    I know folks gonna respond with arguments like
    "if you don't own a house don't do the event"
    But I would rather have nice furniture ready for the rare day I might be lucky enough to get an apartment rather than buy them for £5+ a year later on the Mogstation.
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  8. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    Your comments are a little strange. It says you have been here since 2012. Those of us who have been here since the beginning understand(accept?) what SE is. This is a sub game that is as close to f2p microtransaction you are going to get. SE isn't going to implement anything like instance housing without cashing in. I think the mogshop is gross. SE is as bad as EA or Activision and the player base supports them. As long as they get MSQ and preserve lore, they don't seem to care. If forcing people to pay even more gets them a house if they want one. I think we have to live with it.


    If you think they are better then that. I am glad you still have faith in them. I lost faith somewhere early in the 2.X that we are all credit card numbers and they want to milk us bad. Also we don't get many in english SE has some pretty heavy handed phone games.
    So... a few things. I'm not sure why you replied with that quote, as it doesn't seem related to your point...moving on.

    I have no faith in any corporation. That being said, the only way to guarantee that nothing ever changes, and that you never get what you want, is to not do anything. As others have said, I could simply play another game if I cared to, but I rather like this one. I still care enough about it to want it to be better. Naive perhaps, but if nothing comes of it I can always leave, and at least I can say I tried something rather than sitting complacent or just lapping up whatever I'm served.
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  9. #119
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    R'lileen Min'enoth
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    Few people here don't get it : nobody complains against the PRICE of mansions but about the NUMBER of SLOTS. People ask instancied housing not because of the price but because it could allow more personalisation.

    Technical arguments used by SE are... at least weird since they shows some features that make doubtfull the validity and the sincerity of their arguments. And that's a problem.

    Carbine did some mistakes with Wildstar but their housing system or BDO system show that the technical arguments used by SE are hardly understandable.

    SE refuse to add wards but on the other hand, they don't go to the end with their logic. They should use auctions rather than timer and other artificial restrictions.

    I don't care about price or neighborhood, there's currently almost none anyway; my grudges are against the risk to lose housing and then losing events items too, especially since they end in mogstation. We can't by them to NPCs even thought we have the event achievment.

    In fact, FFXIV housing looks broken to me, as if they don't really know where they wan't to go with it. Worst it even looks as if they have added one only "because a MMO have to propose housing".
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  10. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    Apartments aren't instanced housing. They are open FC rooms. If they were truly instanced housing and not just some knock off of another in game asset don't you think it would have been easier to expand now. They keep throwing the bone out we are going to do X to apartments. It feels just like when someone says let me go to the back and look. It is just a routine both parties play to stay nice and dream.
    Apartments ARE instanced housing, so are FC house rooms. Stop being picky. This "I want it my way and I want it now" attitude is getting really old.
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