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  1. #23961
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    ErryK's Avatar
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    Ethan Vayne
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    Ragnarok
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by savageink View Post
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    They should probably change that. As it is, it's something devs should have expected with setting the item level so low and having not changed it since 4.1.
    (0)



    Baby, tell me, what's your motive?

  2. #23962
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    Rasikko's Avatar
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    Rasikko Rakitto
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiss13 View Post
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    ..You were seriously trolled on an unprecedented epic level of such proportion that I have never seen in all my 30+ yrs of gaming, and I have seen a lot of trolling.

    x_x, i'd give you 1000 comms for putting up with that. You should have just left with the joke being on them.
    (8)

  3. #23963
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    Dogempire's Avatar
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    Okami Amaterasuu
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hiss13 View Post
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    Yeah, I have a hard time believing people can actually be that stupid, so it's likely that they queued up with friends and decided to troll some poor random healer with their antics.
    (9)

    Watching forum drama be like

  4. #23964
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    RyuSaarva's Avatar
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    Ryu Saarva
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    Phoenix
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Huh, haven't wiped on Angra Mainyu in a while, but when one tank dies to Doom and the other two can't be bothered, causing the boss to pinball around the room eating healers....

    And then they went the other way for the next two bosses and decided to all fight for aggro instead. Cerberus was spinning so much I was honestly getting dizzy.
    overgeared healer can kite it and solo heal himself while waiting for some tank to provoke, just tanking it propably works too but I have never tried it.
    (0)

  5. #23965
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    Callinon's Avatar
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    Callinon Soulforge
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    Ultros
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hiss13 View Post
    dear god
    I'd have raised an eyebrow about having the healer lead the dungeon.. I'd have abandoned ship the moment they ran back to the beginning to sneak around a pack.

    If you're asking whether or not this is a thing? It is not. You were being trolled... hard.
    (11)

  6. #23966
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    Jybril's Avatar
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    Junpei Iorii
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Hiss13 View Post
    I have never thought that I would get unbearably livid in this game. Even through the worst of wipes, I've never gotten livid. Until today. I resubbed yesterday after a week of hiatus due to not having time to play thanks to surgery rotations getting unbearable.
    I hope you reported all 3 of them.
    I feel bad you couldn't tell they were trolling honestly
    and wasted all that time. I have a bit of patience, but you miss,
    are the Goddess of all patience lol!
    (9)

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  8. #23967
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    Oichi's Avatar
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    Okimi Shikinami
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiss13 View Post
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    I have never reported anyone, but in my opinion, those 3 well deserved it. And you... you simply deserve a medal. I wish you had not been forced to outstrecht your immense patience that way, but I am also glad there are people as nice as you around. My respects!
    (6)

  9. #23968
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    Berteaux_Braumegain's Avatar
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    Berteaux Braumegain
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I have a habit for queuing for Alliance Raid Roulette at 9:45 AM so I can finish at 10 AM. It saves me a little time.

    Wound up getting Labyrinth of the Ancients, because of course. We almost finished too early to the point I was annoyed that I'd have to queue again (and probably get LotA again, to be honest).

    But then everyone failed to stand on buttons on the final boss, so we finished after 10 AM and I got my daily bonus. So at least something good came out of getting this snoozefest again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hiss13 View Post
    I have never thought that I would get unbearably livid in this game. Even through the worst of wipes, I've never gotten livid. Until today. I resubbed yesterday after a week of hiatus due to not having time to play thanks to surgery rotations getting unbearable.
    Needless to say, I am nowhere near my tomestone cap. So, I queue in for Expert Roulette like any other day on WHM.
    I get Amaurot. And this is where things get worse. I'm also wondering whether any of this is reportable as harassment or something as it's the first time I've ever actually wanted to report someone. Granted, I feel it is my own fault for not cutting my losses early.

    Lots of pictures will be shown for posterity~
    Blue is the tank (PLD), Red is the DNC, Purple is the SMN, and the only name showing is mine.

    I start by greeting like usual and get the goofy replies. Looking weird but fine. But, this is where things get weird. Nobody moves forward at all. The tank just begins desynthing a crapton of stuff. How do I know? Because they got an achievement for it. I ask if we're ready to get started, and the tank just tells me to lead the way.



    Not suspicious, I pull away and they follow. First trash pull goes okay. No issues. Then we get to that area where there are 4 mobs behind the stairs. The tank runs all the way back to the start of the map and then stays for a minute before taking his time getting back. And then, he avoids the 4 mobs and goes down the stairs...the other two follow suit and I, confused, follow down.

    As he does, he leaves the following messages in chat:
    [0:24](TANK) we gotta sneak around this pack
    [0:24](TANK) they have a powerful demon in their group

    We kill the mobs, and the gate to the boss room isn't open. Duh. And then this exchange happens.



    They go back, and pull the set of mobs they avoided. And then I notice something odd. Midway through, they stop casting attacks. No Fountain. No Dance. No Ruins. Just auto-attacks from everyone. I'm the only one casting my Holys and heals.

    The mobs eventually die, but I say nothing. We move into the first boss's room. And we pull. During the course of that, the three of them screw up numerous mechanics and there's one point where the tank runs around doing nothing but autoattacks while the DNC does auto-attacks and the SMN does nothing.

    This is the conversation that ensues.


    Now that's strange. I don't remember seeing the first time message pop-up and I scroll back through the chat and see that it didn't. I make a note of it but don't say anything. The next pulls up to the second boss's room end up pretty normal all things considered.

    Then we get to the room. And the DNC pulls a 30 second timer. Odd, but okay. But something strange happens. I notice it again. Before it bellows and calls for mobs. I'm the only one using things that are not auto-attacks, causing the feathered bastard to be at 83% when he calls for the mob rush.

    We finish the boss, just barely, and I finally decide to interject because something is clearly off.



    Now, you could probably tell where my patience was beginning to get stretched thin. Here, I stand and wait in front of the portal to the next area for a bit. Waiting for a good answer. But, instead, the three of them pull the next couple of packs before this message shows up:

    [0:46](TANK) healer how long should we wait for you?
    [0:46](TANK) this next pack is powerful

    And my patience gets stretched further. I go anyway, and do my job.

    [0:49](TANK) healing please

    I ignore it, but I do let the tank die. Not out of any spite, but just because I decided to focus more on DPSing everything since he decided to pull back into that small corner where the laser attacks from outside will hit you always.

    These guys then begin dropping their HPs to zero somehow. And rezing each other, leaving them with a debuff before we go to the boss. Wonderful. I tell the ones who died to return to the start, but get ignored.

    And so, we reach Therion. And here's where my patience snaps.

    Attempt 1: The tank takes the beam that goes down the whole path and the DPS jump off the sides. The tank tells everyone to just stand behind him and he'll protect them (yes, he did say this.)
    Attempt 2: The tank and the DPS all take the beam. The DPS all die. But, we can still push forward. I do what I can to keep everyone up but all the DPS die and eventually we run out of platforms and I die because I get caught in the beam. But the tank is alive and well and can beat it since he's a paladin and he's looking to do it. He'll finally put me out of my misery, I think. Boy was I wrong. Guy jumps off the side of the platform when the boss is at 1%.



    It's during this fight I decide to do something I should have done at the start. Look at their gear. And all of them have i360 and i370 gear. ALL OF THEM. Which means SMN was lying or trolling.

    Attempt 3: The DNC disconnects during the ready check. My patience is all lost. And the following conversation encompasses just how it went.


    Now, I called BS in my head as I knew there was no such thing (but double-checked with a friend while I waited to confirm).

    Attempt 4: DNC pulls another 30 second countdown. As soon as the timer hits zero, he DCs. I lose my patience and tell them to start up. DNC returns midway, but again, all but the tank wipe. And the tank...jumps off again.



    Attempt 5 (The reckoning): I'll let the conversation speak for itself. No more patience and I was done dealing with their nonsense. But, during that time, the DNC was given a rez and hit starting point. Pretending he didn't do it on purpose. Tank is the last one standing and jumps at 2-ish%.



    And at that point, I finally realize that I should cut my losses. 70 minutes wasted. This is the last part of the chat before I left.



    Now, I know some of you will probably say I should have left that situation way early on, but sunk cost fallacy can be brutal. Guess I'm not gonna be capping my tomes in time.

    But, honestly. Is this a thing?
    This is why Emet-Selch hates us.



    That said, you must have the patience of a saint, because I definitely would've left or possibly said something that would've gotten me landed in GM jail.
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    Last edited by Berteaux_Braumegain; 09-22-2019 at 02:11 AM.

  10. #23969
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    ValyrianBlood's Avatar
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    Yrys Silvarum
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    Spriggan
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hiss13 View Post
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    Oh geez...did u honestly gave them the benefit of the doubt for the entire dungeon? I'm sorry for your time loss and I'm sorry those idiots actually had someone putting up with their BS for 70 (!!!) minutes while having a blast with it. As for the sunk time cost fallacy..honestly screw them, IF I was there for so long,I would have dc'ed or left during the last fight just to spite them back.
    (5)
    This is our future. Our story.

  11. #23970
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    Hiss13's Avatar
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    Itsuwa Amakusa
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quick Follow-up to this incident
    Quote Originally Posted by Hiss13 View Post
    The incident
    One thing I neglected to mention was that I figured out during Attempt 4 that the Doom came from standing underneath the boss or in that golden area he cordons off after he jumps.

    Second, I did end up filing the report a few minutes ago as I just needed to sleep on it after I finished writing this all up and wasn't really sure till I saw all the replies after I woke up whether it was reportable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mirhd View Post
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    Relatively new to MMOs so I didn't even know these kind of actions had a name aside from trolling.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogempire View Post
    Yeah, I have a hard time believing people can actually be that stupid, so it's likely that they queued up with friends and decided to troll some poor random healer with their antics.
    Funny enough, I decided to do some digging this morning (well, mild digging as in finding them on the lodestone) and it turns out that this may not be too far from the truth. They're all from the same server and the tank and DNC are both part of a FC with member numbers in the hundreds with the DNC being the leader and the tank being the third person on the rank list.

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    Honestly, I should have cut my losses far sooner, but I ended up chomping on the bait and hoping I could at least complete the run and move on. In retrospect, I definitely should have saved myself the trouble and moved on.

    But thanks for the kind words.

    Quote Originally Posted by Berteaux_Braumegain View Post
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    And thank you for the picture. Not gonna lie, that made my morning.
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