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    Quote Originally Posted by Hash_Browns View Post
    Ok, I can see where this is coming from, but using a guide from like 2013 when a bunch of other guides from 2017-2019 really doesn't make sense, especially when you consider the fact that the official FFXIV job guide is the second result.
    I jumped through a bunch of results and got both answers, including various forum posts from various sites in various years. So I leveled Marauder to 15 to be safe, and was still playing through early MSQ anyways (as reaching a certain point in that is also a requirement).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreakon13 View Post
    I jumped through a bunch of results and got both answers, including various forum posts from various sites in various years. So I leveled Marauder to 15 to be safe, and was still playing through early MSQ anyways (as reaching a certain point in that is also a requirement).
    One thing I can not recommend enough is The Balance if you are new. (https://thebalanceffxiv.com/ - has the discord, and a ton of resources)

    They are constantly theory crafting stuff, and will help anyone new to the game all the way to BiS for raiding. The discord has a ton of guides on proper rotations, melds, brackets for stats, when to use moves effectively, etc. Even if they don't have what you are looking for, they have a questions section for each class where a good chunk of people are willing to help out.

    Honestly, The Balance is probably the thing I see brought up the most when asking for help, and it's probably the best way to get an up-to-date answer for the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hash_Browns View Post
    One thing I can not recommend enough is The Balance if you are new. (https://thebalanceffxiv.com/ - has the discord, and a ton of resources)

    They are constantly theory crafting stuff, and will help anyone new to the game all the way to BiS for raiding. The discord has a ton of guides on proper rotations, melds, brackets for stats, when to use moves effectively, etc. Even if they don't have what you are looking for, they have a questions section for each class where a good chunk of people are willing to help out.

    Honestly, The Balance is probably the thing I see brought up the most when asking for help, and it's probably the best way to get an up-to-date answer for the game.
    I appreciate it, I'm sure it'll come in handy as I get further in the MSQ and unlock more higher end content.

    But for the record, I'm actually doing a bit better now than I was two weeks in. Just advocating a little for newer players since misinformation isn't always entirely their fault, and mistakes aren't always a lack of effort or interest in learning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreakon13 View Post
    I appreciate it, I'm sure it'll come in handy as I get further in the MSQ and unlock more higher end content.

    But for the record, I'm actually doing a bit better now than I was two weeks in. Just advocating a little for newer players since misinformation isn't always entirely their fault, and mistakes aren't always a lack of effort or interest in learning.
    The game itself does a poor job in teaching new players how things regarding classes/jobs work. That's why there a lot of information out there and sometimes it takes a bit to sift through.
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    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    The game itself does a poor job in teaching new players how things regarding classes/jobs work. That's why there a lot of information out there and sometimes it takes a bit to sift through.
    I was actually impressed by the little training exercises that revolve around your class/role, it helped me a lot. But there's a big gap between those absolute basics, and expectations in real situations with real players. And that gap gets even bigger in later game content, I imagine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreakon13 View Post
    I was actually impressed by the little training exercises that revolve around your class/role, it helped me a lot. But there's a big gap between those absolute basics, and expectations in real situations with real players. And that gap gets even bigger in later game content, I imagine.
    Yep, exactly. They only tell you things like "hit, tank or heal till you win" with a side of "dodge this" then send people on their merry way. The game needs a proper tutorial for each class/job, in my opinion. The main thing Halls of the Novice is good for is teaching people some basic party mechanics. Perhaps such tutorials could be added to that.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 09-21-2019 at 12:38 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.